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26-06-2021, 01:36 PM
#1471
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
We need to get our education back to the basics - teach our students to read, to write and to do maths ... no need, though to have a computer in every class. Cheap labour is not the problem. Laziness, braindead ideology and political correctness is.
In the united states their end of high school exams are multiple choice:
https://collegereadiness.collegeboar...ice-test-1.pdf
Though we should definately aim to be the best in the world.
Which might not be singapore or asia given they produce rote learning robots (who are easy to automate).
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26-06-2021, 01:38 PM
#1472
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Why do the English articles of The Treaty of Waitangi refer to the Queen of England. There was no such position in 1840. Queen Victoria was Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Sovereignty was ceded to an entity that did not exist?
Last edited by Bjauck; 26-06-2021 at 01:45 PM.
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26-06-2021, 01:45 PM
#1473
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Why do the English articles of The Treaty of Waitangi refer to the Queen of England. There was no such position in 1840. Queen Victoria was Queen of Great Britain and Ireland. Sovereignty was ceded to an entity that did not exist?
So, it was a simple colonisation process and hence NZ's tribal aristocrats have no special rights in this case?
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 26-06-2021 at 02:04 PM.
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26-06-2021, 02:03 PM
#1474
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
Unfortunately he/she has used similar terms in reference to letting all women control more of their own future.
I don't see why women should have expectations placed on them to bring a child into the world when it often means considerably lower economic opportunities for them.
A clear explanation that anyone who thinks abortion is just fine and dandy should watch. The philosophical history around free will being engaged in opposition to truth also explains some of the trans madness the West is currently enduring.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wp3vbgU8HR4
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26-06-2021, 02:04 PM
#1475
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
So it was a simple colonisation process and hence NZ's tribal aristocrats have no special rights in this case?
Possibly...or, the subsequent colonisation and Crown control was illegitimate and NZ should revert to full iwi control now.
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26-06-2021, 02:07 PM
#1476
The UN would have some issues with an aristocratic structure and excluding most of the population from making decisions.
Democracy works well, or is the best form of govt we have.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 26-06-2021 at 02:14 PM.
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26-06-2021, 02:20 PM
#1477
Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
The UN would have some issues with an aristocratic structure and excluding most of the population from making decisions.
Democracy works well, or is the best form of govt we have.
The 1835 Declaration of Independence of the United Tribes of NZ may have standing as a consequence of the voiding of 1840 Treaty. The iwi may convene and offer the British a new Treaty and establish a new constitution for NZ.
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26-06-2021, 02:54 PM
#1478
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Why do the English articles of The Treaty of Waitangi refer to the Queen of England. There was no such position in 1840. Queen Victoria was Queen of The United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland. Sovereignty was ceded to an entity that did not exist?
Naturally It follows that the Queen of the U.K. and G.B is the Queen of England, so what's wrong with referring to her as such? Nothing of course. There's plenty of history of early 'Kind and Queens of England', as you well know.
Last edited by fungus pudding; 26-06-2021 at 02:55 PM.
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26-06-2021, 03:37 PM
#1479
This could be in the Labour thread or the coronavirus thread, but given this is a bit more political, I'll post it here.
Fran O'Sullivan: Just answer the question Jacinda
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ZR37XMMNFSEV4/
"It's now very difficult for the Prime Minister to turn around and kick ass over the haphazard Covid vaccine rollout when she has backed herself into a corner over the OECD's decision to award New Zealand bottom ranking on this score. But that is exactly what she needs to do. In other words, adopt the Helen Clark approach of 'I've had a gutsful and I'm going to fix this'."
"There has been a great deal of obfuscation from the top floor of the Beehive in the last fortnight over the OECD's verdict. The Paris-based organisation says New Zealand's vaccination pace needs to accelerate to reduce the risk of new outbreaks and pave the way for full border opening in 2022."
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26-06-2021, 03:58 PM
#1480
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Naturally It follows that the Queen of the U.K. and G.B is the Queen of England, so what's wrong with referring to her as such? Nothing of course. There's plenty of history of early 'Kind and Queens of England', as you well know.
There was no such title or office as the Queen of England so it did not naturally follow. Victoria only had authority as the Queen of the UK of GB and Ireland within the geographical borders of England. Likewise her only authority internationally was as the Queen of the UK of GB and Ireland. The kingdom of England had ceased to exist in 1707 with the Act of Union, a long time prior to Queen Victoria’s time.
If Don Brash is wants to pick at nits in the Treaty of Waitangi, maybe he should pick at that one too?
The first: The chiefs of the Confederation and all the Chiefs who have not joined that Confederation give absolutely to the Queen of England for ever the complete government over their land
Government was given to a non-existent office holder. In addition there was no Kingdom of England government only a British government.
There is plenty of history of Monarchs of England just as there has been with Monarchs of France and Emperors of Rome. However that is not relevant.
Last edited by Bjauck; 26-06-2021 at 04:18 PM.
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