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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    There was no such title or office as the Queen of England so it did not naturally follow. Victoria only had authority as the Queen of the UK of GB and Ireland within the geographical borders of England. Likewise her only authority internationally was as the Queen of the UK of GB and Ireland. The kingdom of England had ceased to exist in 1707 with the Act of Union, a long time prior to Queen Victoria’s time.

    If Don Brash is wants to pick at nits in the Treaty of Waitangi, maybe he should pick at that one too?

    There is plenty of history of Monarchs of England just as there has been with Monarchs of France and Emperors of Rome. However that is not relevant.
    Regardless of title, she was the queen of England. Just as the current one is.

    https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryU...eensofBritain/

    'There have been 61 monarchs of England and Britain spread over a period of approximately 1200 years'.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zaphod View Post
    This could be in the Labour thread or the coronavirus thread, but given this is a bit more political, I'll post it here.

    Fran O'Sullivan: Just answer the question Jacinda

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...ZR37XMMNFSEV4/

    "It's now very difficult for the Prime Minister to turn around and kick ass over the haphazard Covid vaccine rollout when she has backed herself into a corner over the OECD's decision to award New Zealand bottom ranking on this score. But that is exactly what she needs to do. In other words, adopt the Helen Clark approach of 'I've had a gutsful and I'm going to fix this'."

    "There has been a great deal of obfuscation from the top floor of the Beehive in the last fortnight over the OECD's verdict. The Paris-based organisation says New Zealand's vaccination pace needs to accelerate to reduce the risk of new outbreaks and pave the way for full border opening in 2022."
    A big fail on the government’s behalf. They should turn the vaccine rollout over to iwi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Regardless of title, she was the queen of England. Just as the current one is.

    https://www.historic-uk.com/HistoryU...eensofBritain/

    'There have been 61 monarchs of England and Britain spread over a period of approximately 1200 years'.
    Queen Anne, who died in 1714 was the last Queen of England.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    A big fail on the government’s behalf. They should turn the vaccine rollout over to iwi.

    Yes the Iwi were good stewards over everything they were reponsible for of course.

    https://teara.govt.nz/en/fire-and-agriculture

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    Slippery slope:

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...proposals.html

    I don't agree with the govts changes here and its been poorly explained.
    How long until people are imprisoned for simply disliking a government.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Queen Anne, who died in 1714 was the last Queen of England.
    Look it up and you'll find there is a current queen of England,, as well as rest of UK, named Elizabeth.
    Last edited by fungus pudding; 26-06-2021 at 05:44 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Yes wages and salaries should be rising when we assume the borders are closed.

    If they are not now, they never will, and it points to broader issues with the labour market.
    There's no way wages will go up if the biggest employer, government, decided to freeze pay increases for another 3 years. Labour deliberately keeps people poor with taxes, policies and pay freezes. This will end up in essential workers going to Australia. Why would a starting nurse work here, when Australia offers 20k more and cheaper living?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Look it up and you'll find there is a current queen of England,, as well as rest of UK, named Elizabeth.
    I presume you are referring to the Queen of the United Kingdom because the Queen of England refers to an historical position just like a reference to the Emperor of Rome? Both those positions used to have authority over parts of Britain.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Slippery slope:

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...proposals.html

    I don't agree with the govts changes here and its been poorly explained.
    How long until people are imprisoned for simply disliking a government.
    Quite worrying if they make the definition of hate speech broad - as slander and defamation have been in the past.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Quite worrying if they make the definition of hate speech broad - as slander and defamation have been in the past.
    Well, we can agree on that one.

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