Labour govt 2020-23

[Bjauck]

You have to own that.Reason over reaction any day, an informed response over losing control anger. Thanks for your opinion part of it anyway. Disagree with you and thank dog we havnt got the other party in Govt. Covid would be rampant here for one with national falling over themselves to open the borders early and beneficaries would be eating grass and burning their furniture to keep warm under Judith Collins the founder of Dirty politics.

If I understand your post correctly - Just because the other side may have been worse, is no reason to gloss over the shortcomings of the side that occupies the Treasury benches.

The vaccine rollout inconsistencies may not all be down to the government in Wellington. The Health Boards are involved too. However The Minister of Health in conjunction with the Ministry has been responsible for setting priorities - including which areas and groups of people have priority. The government had also been under political pressure to target S. Auckland and particular groups for the vaccine rollout. With the travel bubble with Australia, was that still appropriate?

BP clearly gave examples showing that government policy was failing to operate effectively and target those with the most pressing needs. Clearly this government is not working for everybody, perhaps not even for some of the traditional Labour support base, who earn wages and are looking for a home.

[Joshuatree]

Vaccine roll out as fast as supplies are coming in.To ask for perfection is not the least bit realistic,we have to learn to improve as we go.

[BlackPeter]

Vaccine roll out as fast as supplies are coming in.To ask for perfection is not the least bit realistic,we have to learn to improve as we go.

Is it really asking for perfection if we just complain that government is playing with peoples life's by dragging the chain and by running a less that competent administration?

You always forget to mention as well that there is a reason that vaccines are coming in so slow to NZ - Our government did not order enough vaccine early enough. Last on the world ... well, in the developed world at least.

Nearly all other OECD countries (and many others including developing nations) did a better job in ordering vaccines and rolling them out - can't be that hard, can it?, but hey - if you are happy enough that we are still beating South Sudan (and some other mainly African countries) in the vaccination roll out, than maybe your standards for a capable government are lower than mine.

[BlackPeter]

Vaccine roll out as fast as supplies are coming in.To ask for perfection is not the least bit realistic,we have to learn to improve as we go.

Is it really asking for perfection if we just complain that government is playing with peoples life's by dragging the chain and by running a less that competent administration?

You always forget to mention as well that there is a reason that vaccines are coming in so slow to NZ - Our government did not order enough vaccine early enough. Last in the world ... well, in the developed world at least.

Nearly all other OECD countries (and many others including developing nations) did a better job in ordering vaccines and rolling them out - can't be that hard, can it?, but hey - if you are happy enough that we are still beating South Sudan (and some other mainly African countries) in the vaccination roll out, than maybe your standards for a capable government are lower than mine.

[Baa_Baa]

Is it really asking for perfection if we just complain that government is playing with peoples life's by dragging the chain and by running a less that competent administration?

You always forget to mention as well that there is a reason that vaccines are coming in so slow to NZ - Our government did not order enough vaccine early enough. Last on the world ... well, in the developed world at least.

Nearly all other OECD countries (and many others including developing nations) did a better job in ordering vaccines and rolling them out - can't be that hard, can it?, but hey - if you are happy enough that we are still beating South Sudan (and some other mainly African countries) in the vaccination roll out, than maybe your standards for a capable government are lower than mine.

You blame the "government" but it's not clear whether you mean the Executive (Labour in Government), or the Administration (government [agencies])? Obvious isn't it that the agencies are responsible for implementing the processes to meet the policies, responsible for the MIQ, responsible for the Vaccine programme, etc. Labour itself (Government) does nothing practical, the agencies (government) do it all. By extension, it could be any Executive party in Government and the agencies that implement the processes would be the same as they are now.

[Zaphod]

You blame the "government" but it's not clear whether you mean the Executive (Labour in Government), or the Administration (government [agencies])? Obvious isn't it that the agencies are responsible for implementing the processes to meet the policies, responsible for the MIQ, responsible for the Vaccine programme, etc. Labour itself (Government) does nothing practical, the agencies (government) do it all. By extension, it could be any Executive party in Government and the agencies that implement the processes would be the same as they are now.

When a government agency doesn't implement the desired administrative function requested by the executive, who holds them to account?

[Panda-NZ-]

Is it really asking for perfection if we just complain that government is playing with peoples life's by dragging the chain and by running a less that competent administration?

The fact you don't think our corona response has been world leading would be a strange concept to almost all international visitors here.
That there has been almost no lockdowns has been amazing for business, health and the economy.

Though they are failing on the hate speech law, housing and encouraging seperatism here.

[kiora]

Where did the other 15% of the prisoners go? Into hotels? Likely to be cheaper.
https://www.corrections.govt.nz/reso...ats_march_2021

[kiora]

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[iceman]

The fact you don't think our corona response has been world leading would be a strange concept to almost all international visitors here.
That there has been almost no lockdowns has been amazing for business, health and the economy.

Though they are failing on the hate speech law, housing and encouraging seperatism here.

You are just doing exactly what BP has been very reasonably & thoroughly criticising, by glossing over the shocking shortcomings with the vaccination program here in NZ and a total failure to develop and implement a plan to get NZ out of it's current totally unsutainable and unreasonable border policies.
Not sure what international visitors you are referring to as we don't really have any here at present. I have many friends & family overseas and most of them can not believe that NZ has no plan to join the rest of the World and manage our way with COVID for the next few years. Believing we can continue with an elimination strategy is just a childish fallacy