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06-07-2021, 10:38 AM
#1661
Originally Posted by Balance
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/emerge...JSXJXEB7RBV3E/
Cindy’s answer to any problem is to throw money at it and when that fails, is to blame the previous government.
Glad to see that journalists and indeed, the voters out there are really starting to see through the BS.
Every single policy from them so far was either more tax or throwing money at problem without any idea if it's going to help. This is why modern governments are just money pits stealing from hard working people and giving to unproductive.
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06-07-2021, 11:14 AM
#1662
Originally Posted by peetter
Every single policy from them so far was either more tax or throwing money at problem without any idea if it's going to help. This is why modern governments are just money pits stealing from hard working people and giving to unproductive.
Yes while they fill their own pockets blame everyone but themselves for the mess they put us all in ,but take all the glory on the back of hard working kiwis on any positive developments
Last edited by JBmurc; 06-07-2021 at 11:19 AM.
"With a good perspective on history, we can have a better understanding of the past and present, and thus a clear vision of the future." — Carlos Slim Helu
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06-07-2021, 11:32 AM
#1663
Originally Posted by peetter
Every single policy from them so far was either more tax or throwing money at problem without any idea if it's going to help. This is why modern governments are just money pits stealing from hard working people and giving to unproductive.
Current Australian government did pretty well with their election slogan - workers not shirkers. Probably a bridge too far for New Zealand sensitivities but suspect the sentiment is quietly growing.
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06-07-2021, 01:24 PM
#1664
Originally Posted by JBmurc
Yes while they fill their own pockets blame everyone but themselves for the mess they put us all in ,but take all the glory on the back of hard working kiwis on any positive developments
Yesterday’s Covid update was classic Cindy - appeared to announce the good news about the ‘early’ arrival of 150,000 doses. She was nowhere to be seen and refused to answer on why NZ has gone from top of queue to bottom of queue.
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06-07-2021, 03:25 PM
#1665
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
'There are of course very strong arguments for Death Duties or inheritance tax as you prefer to call it' Well pickle me - it's difficult to interpret that statement of yours as meaning anything other than you consider inheritance tax to be a different name for the same thing.
In your post 1649 you start talking about CGT & inheritance taxes, not death duties or inheritance taxes. I'm as confused as Blue Skies as to what you mean. Your post 1649 reads: "Cgt and ingeritance taxes, are or were different things. Nothing to do with what anyone prefers to call them."
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06-07-2021, 03:41 PM
#1666
Does anyone have any prediction about what Jacinda Ardern will do in response to much criticism, from both left and right, with the proposed extension of hate speech laws. The dangers of this foolish and dangerous legislation have been well traversed, but whether she bails on implementing it is anyone's guess.. What are others opinions?
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06-07-2021, 03:44 PM
#1667
Originally Posted by iceman
In your post 1649 you start talking about CGT & inheritance taxes, not death duties or inheritance taxes. I'm as confused as Blue Skies as to what you mean. Your post 1649 reads: "Cgt and ingeritance taxes, are or were different things. Nothing to do with what anyone prefers to call them."
I did indeed. My apologies to you and blue skies. Of course I meant death duties - not cgt. I'll get back under my nuclear-proof rock for the rest of the day.
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06-07-2021, 04:07 PM
#1668
Originally Posted by artemis
Current Australian government did pretty well with their election slogan - workers not shirkers. Probably a bridge too far for New Zealand sensitivities but suspect the sentiment is quietly growing.
52 weeks wage subsidy vs only 12 weeks here.
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06-07-2021, 04:11 PM
#1669
Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper
Does anyone have any prediction about what Jacinda Ardern will do in response to much criticism, from both left and right, with the proposed extension of hate speech laws. The dangers of this foolish and dangerous legislation have been well traversed, but whether she bails on implementing it is anyone's guess.. What are others opinions?
She will find somebody she can make responsible for the foolish proposal (ideally a political opponent - can she blame it on National?) and then drop the proposal like a hot potato : Surely - there are more PR worthy things around, aren't they?
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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06-07-2021, 04:12 PM
#1670
Originally Posted by Sgt Pepper
Does anyone have any prediction about what Jacinda Ardern will do in response to much criticism, from both left and right, with the proposed extension of hate speech laws. The dangers of this foolish and dangerous legislation have been well traversed, but whether she bails on implementing it is anyone's guess.. What are others opinions?
Going by her interview with Duncan Garner yesterday morning she intends to push on, under the guise of a "discussion document". She claims she is just adopting the Royal Commission's findings, when, as Garner pointed out, she has ignored others.
I still haven't seen what problem they are trying to fix. They will certainly create a whole lot of problems and stifle debate about Labour's plans around LGBTQ alphabet soup. Labour already plans to back people being able to change their sex on their birth certificate and passport without any evidence of medical procedures, just what the person wants. Will attempts to oppose that be permitted under Ardern's authoritarian regime? Highly unlikely, it will be deemed "Hate Speech", and horror of horrors, may offend someone!
Ardern has already misled the NZ public on this, claiming that political opinion would be exempt (it's not). If NZ has an iota of common sense left, this will be her downfall.
It is hard to believe she could have been so ignorant about what is proposed, so one can easily assume she has been deliberate in her misinformation.
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