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22-07-2021, 07:27 PM
#1881
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22-07-2021, 07:30 PM
#1882
Last edited by Bjauck; 22-07-2021 at 07:33 PM.
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23-07-2021, 10:13 AM
#1883
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/125...rchase-critics
Labour List MP and Rotorua resident Tamati Coffey has hit back at critics of the Government’s $8.1m purchase of a motel in the city, arguing the acquisition is “part of a wider puzzle”.
Kāinga Ora announced the purchase on Wednesday saying the 30-unit property would provide over 80 people with temporary housing.
The agency said the 0.66ha site would also offer longer term redevelopment potential for “new warm, dry and healthy public housing in Rotorua”.
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He did concede, however, that a September 2020 Quotable Value capital value of $1.75m and land value of $1,130,000 for the site meant the Government could have overpaid for the motel.
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23-07-2021, 10:22 AM
#1884
Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers
He did concede, however, that a September 2020 Quotable Value capital value of $1.75m and land value of $1,130,000 for the site meant the Government could have overpaid for the motel.[/I]
That's the 3rd valuation figure I have heard.
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23-07-2021, 10:35 AM
#1885
When you see the billions and billions of dollars this government sprays around, it amazes me that you will still see to this day on-line comments raving along the lines of 'John Key spent $26 million on a flag referendum!!'.
That $26 million is the biggest and most weighty $26 million in the history of NZ, with that $26 million we could have paid off the national debt!!
Just know that if the national ever defaults & we are stoney broke, that $26 million spent on a 'flag referendum' will have been the root cause!!
Personally I feel that down in this isolated backwater a fair chunk of our population are barking mad. I heard a radio presenter carrying on about how a head of celery was $3.89 at his local shop. You can have houses in Mt Maunganui selling for $9.525 million, and yet people are shocked to see inflation starting to show up elsewhere in the price of goods and services. Yes, barking mad and also financially illiterate. We've been dumbed down to the point where people have no understanding of cause & effect when it comes to the money supply and inflation.
Last edited by Logen Ninefingers; 23-07-2021 at 10:36 AM.
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23-07-2021, 10:37 AM
#1886
That's the 3rd valuation figure I have heard.
Cool.
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23-07-2021, 10:42 AM
#1887
Originally Posted by dobby41
That's the 3rd valuation figure I have heard.
I bet they are all a good deal less than 8.1 million.
This just highlights Ardern's answer to everything. Just throw money at it. Our money.
As for Tamati Coffey, he would do well to keep a low profile and actually achieve something. The only Labour MP to lose his seat in a massive swing for the party. Maybe there is a weather presenter/propaganda role available in one of the bribed media outlets.
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23-07-2021, 10:55 AM
#1888
Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers
When you see the billions and billions of dollars this government sprays around, it amazes me that you will still see to this day on-line comments raving along the lines of 'John Key spent $26 million on a flag referendum!!'.
That $26 million is the biggest and most weighty $26 million in the history of NZ, with that $26 million we could have paid off the national debt!!
Just know that if the national ever defaults & we are stoney broke, that $26 million spent on a 'flag referendum' will have been the root cause!!
Personally I feel that down in this isolated backwater a fair chunk of our population are barking mad. I heard a radio presenter carrying on about how a head of celery was $3.89 at his local shop. You can have houses in Mt Maunganui selling for $9.525 million, and yet people are shocked to see inflation starting to show up elsewhere in the price of goods and services. Yes, barking mad and also financially illiterate. We've been dumbed down to the point where people have no understanding of cause & effect when it comes to the money supply and inflation.
Interesting article in the herald (paywalled):
Labour is now seen as more capable than National on every one of the top 20 issues concerning New Zealanders.
That's the stark finding for Judith Collins' Opposition in the latest New Zealand Issues Monitor from Ipsos, the world's third-largest market research agency, which works in 90 markets and employs over 18,000 people.
Worse, the data suggests this has at least as much to do with National's performance as with Labour's.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...5c276a09e442f5
It looks like (according to an IPSOS survey) that the general public absolutely agrees with you (and me) that the current governments performance is mediocre at best. Apart from a small number of highlights there is just a long list of broken promises and failures.
The problems is ... the public feels as well despite Labours pathetic performance that Labour is in ALL major topics more competent than National - and frankly speaking - I think the public is right right.
A C rated mediocre student is still better than a student constantly failing their exams.
What National needs to do is stop whining, regrow their liberal wing and bin the hardliners. As long as Collins tries to please Nationals hard right backward looking rednecks, National will never grow back to become a broad church which can command a majority to run the country.
Easy as that - select better people (no sexters, no bullies, no conspiracy nutters - just decent leadership material), bin (or at least silence) the hard right and National can be back in the game.
Anything else means just another easy game for Labour come next election. There is no need for Labour to up their performance as long as National is shooting only own goals.
Last edited by BlackPeter; 23-07-2021 at 10:58 AM.
Reason: attempting to fix the link ...
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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23-07-2021, 03:33 PM
#1889
Originally Posted by BlackPeter
Interesting article in the herald (paywalled):
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/business/...5c276a09e442f5
It looks like (according to an IPSOS survey) that the general public absolutely agrees with you (and me) that the current governments performance is mediocre at best. Apart from a small number of highlights there is just a long list of broken promises and failures.
The problems is ... the public feels as well despite Labours pathetic performance that Labour is in ALL major topics more competent than National - and frankly speaking - I think the public is right right.
A C rated mediocre student is still better than a student constantly failing their exams.
What National needs to do is stop whining, regrow their liberal wing and bin the hardliners. As long as Collins tries to please Nationals hard right backward looking rednecks, National will never grow back to become a broad church which can command a majority to run the country.
Easy as that - select better people (no sexters, no bullies, no conspiracy nutters - just decent leadership material), bin (or at least silence) the hard right and National can be back in the game.
Anything else means just another easy game for Labour come next election. There is no need for Labour to up their performance as long as National is shooting only own goals.
As long as Collins tries to please Nationals hard right backward looking rednecks
Hard right rednecks? This is the country where a moderate bloke like Don Brash is portrayed by our media as a racist to the right of Genghis Khan and Adolph H. The media are a disgraceful bunch who shape public opinion at every turn.
The opposition parties need to combat an agenda of 'separatism by stealth' that this Labour government is clearly implementing. It is the courageous and moral thing to do and should be applauded not condemned.
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23-07-2021, 04:18 PM
#1890
Its National who are trying to be divisive.A tired redundant hangover from the self entitled past era. This Govt are doing the opposite, having the discussions, bringing us up to speed with change and being responsible and enacting on it. Some feel threatened, they want to hold on to the unfair playing field that kept them and their false entitled. Change is a natural evolving progress, nothing to fear except fairness and inclusiveness. Unless you dont want to move with the times. Gotta keep that grey matter pliable or stay rigid and start losing some brain cells. Keep up.
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