Labour govt 2020-23

[jonu]

You are an ignorant, arrogant individual. You have no clue what being transgender means. I pity you.

Start dealing with facts and not emotion justakiwi. Is Laurel Hubbard a biological male or not?

[Balance]

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...eing-disaster/

Intended consequence of an inept & incompetent government - shutting first home buyers and future generations out of the housing market.

[justakiwi]

It's not rocket science. Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth. Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female or something else.

Your genitals alone, do not make you male or female. This is the bit people like you choose not to understand. You won't even try. Some of us, however, are able to look at the situation from a different perspective. We are able to imagine what it would be like to wake up every morning, look in the mirror, and see a physical body that does not match who we are inside our very being. Some of us have the ability to understand how traumatic that must be.

It seems to me that the ones who are the most vocal about other people's gender identity, sexual orientation or whatever else, are projecting their own insecurities. Are you that insecure in your own gender identity or sexuality, that you are incapable of comprehending someone else's?

Start dealing with facts and not emotion justakiwi. Is Laurel Hubbard a biological male or not?

[ynot]

It's not rocket science. Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth. Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female or something else.

Your genitals alone, do not make you male or female. This is the bit people like you choose not to understand. You won't even try. Some of us, however, are able to look at the situation from a different perspective. We are able to imagine what it would be like to wake up every morning, look in the mirror, and see a physical body that does not match who we are inside our very being. Some of us have the ability to understand how traumatic that must be.

It seems to me that the ones who are the most vocal about other people's gender identity, sexual orientation or whatever else, are projecting their own insecurities. Are you that insecure in your own gender identity or sexuality, that you are incapable of comprehending someone else's?

Thats quite an assumption on your part mate.

[justakiwi]

It was a question, not an assumption.

Thats quite an assumption on your part mate.

[peetter]

It's not rocket science. Transgender is an umbrella term for persons whose gender identity, gender expression or behavior does not conform to that typically associated with the sex to which they were assigned at birth. Gender identity refers to a person’s internal sense of being male, female or something else.

Your genitals alone, do not make you male or female. This is the bit people like you choose not to understand. You won't even try. Some of us, however, are able to look at the situation from a different perspective. We are able to imagine what it would be like to wake up every morning, look in the mirror, and see a physical body that does not match who we are inside our very being. Some of us have the ability to understand how traumatic that must be.

It seems to me that the ones who are the most vocal about other people's gender identity, sexual orientation or whatever else, are projecting their own insecurities. Are you that insecure in your own gender identity or sexuality, that you are incapable of comprehending someone else's?

Males have higher musle mass, different build, bigger hearts and many more physical advantages over females. If somebody transitions after 30, they shouldn't be competing in womans category. It is not fair because they went through 30 years of 1000 times higher testosteron levels than any other woman.

If you can't see this, you're the one blind to reality.

[justakiwi]

Which is one of the reasons young transgender people should be able to begin hormone treatment (if they wish) before the onset of puberty. But of course, so many "well-meaning" adults and politicians, seem hell bent on removing that option. If transgender people were supported and assisted to begin hormone treatment before the onset of puberty, the issues around sports, would become a moot point.

It is so easy for those who are not transgender, to judge and criticize. Nothing I say will change your opinion, but someone has to try.

Males have higher musle mass, different build, bigger hearts and many more physical advantages over females. If somebody transitions after 30, they shouldn't be competing in womans category. It is not fair because they went through 30 years of 1000 times higher testosteron levels than any other woman.

If you can't see this, you're the one blind to reality.

[peetter]

Which is one of the reasons young transgender people should be able to begin hormone treatment (if they wish) before the onset of puberty. But of course, so many "well-meaning" adults and politicians, seem hell bent on removing that option. If transgender people were supported and assisted to begin hormone treatment before the onset of puberty, the issues around sports, would become a moot point.

It is so easy for those who are not transgender, to judge and criticize. Nothing I say will change your opinion, but someone has to try.

It would be so easy right, if only there weren't parents who brainwash their children into thinking they are trans. Or highly suggestible children that think it's cool. Just use hormone treatments before the child even experiences the full potential of their body and hormones on their personality... We don't let children drive, drink, vote because they are not mentaly ready, but permanently affecting developmnet of the body is something we should let them decide.

[iceman]

Do your homework before making statements like this. Your ignorance is showing.

Justakiwi. I’ve liked your style and determination a lot on these forums, as you know. But you sometimes come across as very intolerable of views different to your own , like you do in this discussion, often lowering yourself to little other than nasty name calling or personal attacks. Not cool

In any case, as it turns out, Laurel Hubbard could not make it on the World stage as any gender, so the discussion luckily won’t go to the next level.

She had a go and failed.

[justakiwi]

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It would be so easy right, if only there weren't parents who brainwash their children into thinking they are trans. Or highly suggestible children that think it's cool. Just use hormone treatments before the child even experiences the full potential of their body and hormones on their personality... We don't let children drive, drink, vote because they are not mentaly ready, but permanently affecting developmnet of the body is something we should let them decide.