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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Biologically so.
    Though how about someone with Turner syndrome - 1X, no Y?
    Emotionally?
    Does that not count?
    We were discussing this in relation to Laurel Hubbard and the ability for a biological male to compete alongside biological females. I wouldn't venture an opinion on "Turner Syndrome".

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    We were discussing this in relation to Laurel Hubbard and the ability for a biological male to compete alongside biological females. I wouldn't venture an opinion on "Turner Syndrome".
    Goodness knows how the Olympic Committee ever condoned Hubbard to enter the woman's competition. What has happened to common sense.
    Last edited by ynot; 03-08-2021 at 02:06 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    We were discussing this in relation to Laurel Hubbard and the ability for a biological male to compete alongside biological females. I wouldn't venture an opinion on "Turner Syndrome".
    Fair enough - in that context, I gave my opinion in post #2079

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    I'm happy to restate....XX equals female. XY equals male
    Genetically. For biological gender, it is a factor and the starting point.
    Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/
    Last edited by Bjauck; 03-08-2021 at 02:59 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Genetically. For biological gender, it is a factor and the starting point.
    Sex Redefined: The Idea of 2 Sexes Is Overly Simplistic

    https://www.scientificamerican.com/a...y-simplistic1/
    Intersex is not trans, hence the i in the alphabet soup.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/govern...36XE3B6R7WAAI/

    Now watch Cindy backtrack on the cycle bridge just as she backtracked on CGT.

    Mistress of spin has already ordered her taxpayer paid army of BS artists/spin merchants to come up with a reason why.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/govern...36XE3B6R7WAAI/

    Now watch Cindy backtrack on the cycle bridge just as she backtracked on CGT.

    Mistress of spin has already ordered her taxpayer paid army of BS artists/spin merchants to come up with a reason why.
    The hole she's digging herself is getting bigger. You can only wing it for so long.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    The hole she's digging herself is getting bigger. You can only wing it for so long.
    For the record, this is Cindy’s big announcement in June on the bike bridge.

    It’s all go and funding has been provided.

    Oh dear oh dear - what is the mistress of spin going to do now!!!???

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    The bike bridge was a crazy idea when there's so many higher priorities , & few MP's even looked convinced. Where did it come from?

    Cyclists can already cross the harbour from many points around the North Shore by throwing their bikes on ferries from Hobsonville, Beachhaven, Birkenhead, Bayswater, Devonport, Whangaparoa plus Half Moon Bay in the Eastern suburbs. (not that many commuters do)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    The bike bridge was a crazy idea when there's so many higher priorities , & few MP's even looked convinced. Where did it come from?

    Cyclists can already cross the harbour from many points around the North Shore by throwing their bikes on ferries from Hobsonville, Beachhaven, Birkenhead, Bayswater, Devonport, Whangaparoa plus Half Moon Bay in the Eastern suburbs. (not that many commuters do)
    Build a tunnel, then allow cyclists to use 1 or 2 lanes of the bridge.
    In the meantime but on some ferries every 10-20 minutes.
    Job done.

    The problem with politics is that if politicians make a bad decision and backtrack to the right decision some people consider them as weak.
    I find it weird that people aren't happy to get what they wanted. Some people are just unbalanced.

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