Labour govt 2020-23

[FTG]

The absolute crushing conformity of society is on full display. People lining up two metres apart, wearing masks, in towns and villages all across New Zealand where there is demonstrably no virus in the community, and once we are out of Level 4 we are straight into Level 3 lite. This crushing lockdown will continue for no reason or purpose. And now Ardern reacts to a journalists question by suggesting they will tighten up on ‘essential workers’ even more, forcing more people to stay home right across the nation. The entire nation must shut down because of what is happening in Auckland: how is that a wise and just government? Is it ‘kind’ to shut down an entire nation when the outbreak is confined to one city? I think Adern and her timid government - influenced by lunatic advisors - will be utterly damned by history. This country has turned into a madhouse and a compliant sheep-like public have allowed it to happen.

Well let's not forget, NZ is known as the land of "the long white cloud" AND a country full of Sheeple.

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/arthur...PP6NO22NO6SPI/

Paywalled

This government has turned a housing crisis into a catastrophe.

Excerpt :

"The last Government promised to contain house prices, but failed to do so. When I called publicly for them to enact policies that would return prices to the levels when they took office – requiring a price fall of 40 per cent – they refused to contemplate house prices falling from their new higher levels.

The current Government has failed even more spectacularly. It, also, has publicly refused to contemplate house prices falling from even more unaffordable levels."

[artemis]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/arthur...PP6NO22NO6SPI/

Paywalled

This government has turned a housing crisis into a catastrophe.

Reprinted from the the latest Listener. Many libraries have magazines available to download and read free. Wellington City Library does, including this issue of the Listener.

[Balance]

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...cine-shipment/

Chris Hipkins either lying about the vaccine delivery dates or confused - in either case, thoroughly unacceptable and demonstrates clearly how incompetent Cindy’s blue eyes boy really is.

[dobby41]

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...cine-shipment/

Chris Hipkins either lying about the vaccine delivery dates or confused - in either case, thoroughly unacceptable and demonstrates clearly how incompetent Cindy’s blue eyes boy really is.

Have you ever thought that decisions change when new information is presented?
I'm sure you follow that line of thinking in your share dealings.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

[Balance]

Have you ever thought that decisions change when new information is presented?
I'm sure you follow that line of thinking in your share dealings.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Yup - decisions do change but lies & spin do not.

Cindy & her incompetents are so proficient now in spin that they are incapable of straight talking or telling the truth anymore. They lie so easily and the truth coming out is catching them out BIG TIME.

Here are the facts :

1. Chris Hipkins told all and sundry that NZ was front of the queue for vaccine. Screwed that up and NZ ended up last in the queue.

2. Chris said that all of the Pfizer vaccine would be with NZ by 'end of September'. He then changed his story that he mis-interpreted the delivery information and it was always October. Now we know that he actually knew that the vaccine scheduled for September were deferred to Oct & Nov - by the government's own decision!

Once a person start spinning, he does not know how to stop and then, resorts to lies.

Spread your legs.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ule-by-a-month

https://www.newstalkzb.co.nz/on-air/...cine-shipment/

3 things cannot be long hidden - the sun, the moon & the truth. Buddha

If you tell the truth, you don't have to remember anything. Mark Twain

[iceman]

Have you ever thought that decisions change when new information is presented?
I'm sure you follow that line of thinking in your share dealings.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.

Seriously dobby41, even for you this debacle shouldn't be accepted. The vaccine "stroll-out" has been a complete disaster and now we learn that Hipkins negotiated delayed deliveries of Pfizer because he was worried we didn't have enough fridge space. Now they are talking about slowing the vaccinations down from over 90k per day to 50k per day, because they've stuffed this up yet again, while the country is locked down and businesses paralyzed. Then the PM comes on TV this morning full of spin and bluster. Her credibility and that of Hipkins are now completely shot and the media and much of the public is finally starting to see it.

[fungus pudding]

Seriously dobby41, even for you this debacle should't be accepted. The vaccine "stroll-out" has been a complete disaster and it now we learn that Hipkins negotiated delayed deliveries of Pfizer because he was worried we didn't have enough fridge space. Now they are talking about slowing the vaccinations down from over 90k per day to 50k per day, because they've stuffed this up yet again, while the country is locked down and businesses paralyzed. Then the PM comes on TV this morning full of spin and bluster. Her credibility and that of Hipkins are now completely shot and the media and much of the public is finally starting to see it.

Unless National do something about their leader fairly soon, Labour will stroll back in for a third term, along with the dismal Kermit party.

[jonu]

I posted this on the Coronavirus thread, but it is equally relevant here.

Here's an article about mandatory record keeping.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...ing-compulsory

It largely follows the normal government mouth piece formula, but it does contain this pearl.

"The tech giants only allow Governments access to Bluetooth tracking data from their devices if Governments do not make scanning mandatory. This is why the government talks of mandatory “record keeping” – not scanning in."


It would appear we are relying on tech giants to hold higher privacy and ethical standards than our governments.

Who'd a thunk?

[Zaphod]

This morning while channel surfing during breakfast, I noted that the PM stated on the AM Show that we've "smashed through peak delivery records, beating Canada, Australia, the UK, the USA.... No one has had a peak like ours, no one!" After the graph presented at the press briefing yesterday, this reminds me of Trump seeking out and touting favourable statistics that have little real relevence. Very disappointing.