Labour govt 2020-23

[artemis]

Experience should teach us to be most on our guard to protect liberty when the Government's purposes are beneficent. Men born to freedom are naturally alert to repel invasion of their liberty by evil-minded rulers. The greatest dangers to liberty lurk in the insidious encroachment by men of zeal, well meaning but without understanding.
Louis D. Brandeis Former Assoc. Justice of the US Supreme Court

Insidious encroachment. Many around the world would think that the old 'safety and happiness' are the drivers, and safety these days is the big ticket item. Hard to argue (well not so hard but that's called misinformation these days) but the genie is out of the bottle now. Delta is the current safety step. Then there will be another (mu?) and another ....

Personal approach is to fortify my family with first, critical thinking and financial literacy, and then support them to make a living that does not depend on nationwide government edicts.

[jonu]

Insidious encroachment. Many around the world would think that the old 'safety and happiness' are the drivers, and safety these days is the big ticket item. Hard to argue (well not so hard but that's called misinformation these days) but the genie is out of the bottle now. Delta is the current safety step. Then there will be another (mu?) and another ....

Personal approach is to fortify my family with first, critical thinking and financial literacy, and then support them to make a living that does not depend on nationwide government edicts.

The problem being, Artemis, that "nationwide government edicts" will cut across all parts of your life. There will be no escaping them.

[artemis]

The problem being, Artemis, that "nationwide government edicts" will cut across all parts of your life. There will be no escaping them.

Agree no completely escaping them, but ways and means, some even completely legal and sensible ....

[jonu]

Agree no completely escaping them, but ways and means, some even completely legal and sensible ....

Start by stopping it in its tracks. Let your friends and family know they shouldn't stand for it.

"Show us your papers" could be in place by the end of the year.

[Bjauck]

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Personal approach is to fortify my family with first, critical thinking and financial literacy, and then support them to make a living that does not depend on nationwide government edicts.

Some parents forget that they should be a (the main) source of life skills. It should not be left to schools.

Which livings are free from the tentacles of Government laws and regulations?

[fungus pudding]

Some parents forget that they should be a (the main) source of life skills.

They almost always are, whether they remember it or not. Having met 'some parents' I can assure you it would be a vast improvement if they did forget.

[Blue Skies]

Start by stopping it in its tracks. Let your friends and family know they shouldn't stand for it.

"Show us your papers" could be in place by the end of the year.

I doubt it!

Most everyone will be protesting for QR codes & a Vaccination Passport if they want to be free to travel anywhere else in the world.

Proof of vaccination on a piece of paper doesn't cut it in the rest of the world.


https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/trave...nologists.html

[Panda-NZ-]

Start by stopping it in its tracks. Let your friends and family know they shouldn't stand for it.

"Show us your papers" could be in place by the end of the year.

Do you believe unvaccinated people should be provided hospital space after one year of freely available vaccines?

There should maybe be tents set up with only basic care.

[FTG]

Do you believe unvaccinated people should be provided hospital space after one year of freely available vaccines?

No less than......

- A smoker who now has cancer and needs chemo', despite ALL the packaging encouraging them not to smoke.
- A heavy consumer of sugar, who needs dialysis, despite the years of public health comm's about the evils of sugar.
- A daily beer & wine drinker who has a stroke and heart attack and needs significant rehabilitation; despite having already lost friends & family for the same reason.
- A prison inmate who assaults another, only to be severely injured herself and nearly bleeding out; despite knowing that assaulting others is foolish & inevitably going to end up badly.
- A home owner doing some roof repairs, falling, & then breaking their back because they didn't take head of all the ACC advertising about being safe & using harnesses.

[Bjauck]

He is indeed good looking. Makes up for the genetic issues of spanish royalty, although the king of spain is pretty fine too.

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/lifes...de-effect.html

Move over Sanchez - Mette Frederiksen is twice as good looking with the latest Danish deal for vaccination doses? Maybe Ardern's left wing credentials are not a hindrance