Labour govt 2020-23

[winner69]

On 24 August, Cindy said this in response to vaccine availability and whether she was on the phone like Australia getting more vaccines :

‘We have enough vaccines.’

Next we find that actually, NZ does not have enough vaccines. So she scrambled around to get more and then loudly proclaimed what a great job she is doing!

Front of the queue to back of the queue!

And Ashley can’t recall if we were offered the opportunity in December/February to take supply earlier

No worries Balance our Ambassador in Denmark just tweeted -

These vaccines have just now safely departed Copenhagen airport on their way to New Zealand via Dubai and KL. Mange tak DHL and Denmark’s Statens Serum Institut for your professional work.
@SSI_dk
@DanishMFA
@MFATNZ
@DHLGlobal

[Balance]

We do have enough vaccines ordered.
We didn't need more, just the timing changed.
What makes you think that we needed more than the 10mil ordered?

Australia, on the other hand, actually needed more because Pfizer had become the public preferred vaccine.

She was asked point blank then if NZ had enough vaccines as it was clear the vaccination program needed to be ramped up hugely.

You can defend for all you like but the fact is that she barefaced lied to NZers and the media & public are now onto it.

[jonu]

Vaccine passport is on the way, like it or not.

Not if enough people make their displeasure known. Ardern has shown repeatedly she can not be trusted. Why the hell would you trust her with this?

Fight it. Say not to Domestic passports.

[dobby41]

She was asked point blank then if NZ had enough vaccines as it was clear the vaccination program needed to be ramped up hugely.

You can defend for all you like but the fact is that she barefaced lied to NZers and the media & public are now onto it.

You are conflating two issues and you know it.
10mil doses are enough for us all to have 2 jabs but a bit left for our Pacific neighbours.
We were jabbing at a greater rate than the plan and supply would allow so the timing of supply was an issue.
Even blind Freddie can see the difference.

Again you are blinded by your loathing and hate and becoming unbalanced.

[dobby41]

What plan?

Look overseas at how many countries are already rolling it out and even a nincompoop can tell you that’s on the way for NZ.

Oh, I forgot - we have a team of nincompoops in Cindy’s government. No surprises there!

Look at Australia's plan - out the window.
Lucky we didn't follow them as you wanted.

The plan was indicated a while back as you know.
More details are needed but, given the way Delta has changed things, I expect it to be a bit fluid.
Vaccinate then open up slowly based on 'low risk, medium risk and high risk' country settings (testing pre and post with and without isolation at home or a facility).
Have a trial of home isolation to see if it can work and what's missing.
the indications are all there if you can read.

[Logen Ninefingers]

Look at Australia's plan - out the window.
Lucky we didn't follow them as you wanted.

The plan was indicated a while back as you know.
More details are needed but, given the way Delta has changed things, I expect it to be a bit fluid.
Vaccinate then open up slowly based on 'low risk, medium risk and high risk' country settings (testing pre and post with and without isolation at home or a facility).
Have a trial of home isolation to see if it can work and what's missing.
the indications are all there if you can read.

Ryan Bridge asked Jacinda on 13 August if the government was working to secure more vaccine, and used the example of the Morrison government secuing 1 million additional doses.

Her response? "We don't need more vaccine".

And now we have the government, as lockdown has dragged on, racing to secure additional doses from Spain and Denmark.

So why do we need these additional doses, if we don't need additional doses(?)

We have a 'special issues' focussed government posing as a hyper-competent government. The true focus of this government is on a narrow set of issues, and in their 2nd term it seems the agenda has turned to "delivering for Maori" - which entails unshering in 'co-governance' by stealth.

The have an on-line army of people such as dobby pushing back on all valid criticism. We even had the 'at least they tried' line trotted out around the pathetic and colossal failure that was 'KiwiBuild'.

Eventually the mountains of spin will collapse under their own weight of lies and non-delivery.

[dobby41]

Ryan Bridge asked Jacinda on 13 August if the government was working to secure more vaccine, and used the example of the Morrison government secuing 1 million additional doses.

Her response? "We don't need more vaccine".

And now we have the government, as lockdown has dragged on, racing to secure additional doses from Spain and Denmark.

So why do we need these additional doses, if we don't need additional doses(?)

Yip, I heard that interview and a subsequent one.
So the example - ScoMo wanted more vaccine because they hadn't purchased enough!
They intended to rely more on Astra but for a number of reasons (CSL not producing enough? Public hesitancy?) they needed more Pfizer than they had ordered.
We ordered 10mil doses - more than enough for the population. Are you suggesting that we didn't order those?
Timing was the issue.

So back to the question from Ryan with his example - do we need to order more like Australia because we didn't order enough?
Ardern answered that we had ordered enough for the entire population and that is true still.

The issue, as I see it, isn't that we didn't order enough but that the timing was wrong.
The Govt got caught out by the vaccination surge past their plan.
They developed a plan of jabs/week/month and allowed that to be exceeded to the point that we could have run out.
They then got enough supplies to forestall that.

[jonu]

Another growing problem for Ardern is her Maori constituency that she has been falling over backwards to lock into her support base. Many Maori are mistrustful of government at the best of times. There is significant vaccine hesitancy as a result. A Domestic Vaccine Passport will heavily impact this section of her voter base.

Many rural Maori are also upset with the 3 waters reforms and the SNA allocations in the RMA reforms.

It's all going to come back and bite her....big time.

[BDL]

Ryan Bridge asked Jacinda on 13 August if the government was working to secure more vaccine, and used the example of the Morrison government secuing 1 million additional doses.

Her response? "We don't need more vaccine".

And now we have the government, as lockdown has dragged on, racing to secure additional doses from Spain and Denmark.

So why do we need these additional doses, if we don't need additional doses(?)

We have a 'special issues' focussed government posing as a hyper-competent government. The true focus of this government is on a narrow set of issues, and in their 2nd term it seems the agenda has turned to "delivering for Maori" - which entails unshering in 'co-governance' by stealth.

The have an on-line army of people such as dobby pushing back on all valid criticism. We even had the 'at least they tried' line trotted out around the pathetic and colossal failure that was 'KiwiBuild'.

Eventually the mountains of spin will collapse under their own weight of lies and non-delivery.

Exactly what is happening here......

[Logen Ninefingers]

Robertson (and Treasury) have been telling us that runaway house prices would start slowing down. Sill absolutely no sign of it.

House prices were 25 per cent higher in August than the same time the year before, despite a nationwide level 4 lockdown, new Real Estate Institute figures show.