Labour govt 2020-23

[Balance]

They were in cars - I saw it on TV at the time.
You don't see that now - progress?

Actually they were mostly in rental properties now made unaffordable by Cindy's housing policies.

[Blue Skies]

On the other hand, I think it is quite ironic how much of the traditionally labour-supporting segment of the electorate have been left further behind under Ardern’s Labour.

I think the idea of the traditional Labour supporter being 1950's poor working class & the unemployed is well and truely long gone.

Since Key & English, Labour's moved into the middle ground traditionally held by National, leaving National floundering in a small space between the middle & the right - ACT.
Is National a Christian Conservative party or a socially liberal party, a socially conservative party, a party for big business & tax breaks for the rich or cutting Public services & Benefits ? It seems to be all over the place.

Labour voters come from progressives & aspirational home owning urban liberals, (even many farmers) traditional National supporters, who have done very well with rocketing house prices and a buoyant sharemarket.
And Adern extremely popular with women from all socio-economic groups.

[Bjauck]

Is it? In many developed countries the working class support conservative parties, including in Australia.

Maybe not here though so far.

Really? There has been some change in the UK where “working class” Brexit supporters may have turned to the Brexit promoting Conservative Party. However I doubt a similar shift has already occurred in NZ or Australia. Although, after the Covid response, maybe it will.

[Balance]

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[Bjauck]

I think the idea of the traditional Labour supporter being 1950's poor working class & the unemployed is well and truely long gone.

Since Key & English, Labour's moved into the middle ground traditionally held by National, leaving National floundering in a small space between the middle & the right - ACT.
Is National a Christian Conservative party or a socially liberal party, a socially conservative party, a party for big business & tax breaks for the rich or cutting Public services & Benefits ? It seems to be all over the place.

Labour voters come from progressives & aspirational home owning urban liberals, (even many farmers) traditional National supporters, who have done very well with rocketing house prices and a buoyant sharemarket.
And Adern extremely popular with women from all socio-economic groups.

Any research to back this change in support?

[Panda-NZ-]

I think the idea of the traditional Labour supporter being 1950's poor working class & the unemployed is well and truely long gone.

Since Key & English, Labour's moved into the middle ground traditionally held by National, leaving National floundering in a small space between the middle & the right - ACT.
Is National a Christian Conservative party or a socially liberal party, a socially conservative party, a party for big business & tax breaks for the rich or cutting Public services & Benefits ? It seems to be all over the place.

Labour voters come from progressives & aspirational home owning urban liberals, (even many farmers) traditional National supporters, who have done very well with rocketing house prices and a buoyant sharemarket.
And Adern extremely popular with women from all socio-economic groups.

National is not national anymore too, lots of buying of land and houses by wealthy overseas citizens plus migration.
Then the asset sales which are slowly being gobbled up by American banks.

[fungus pudding]

Coooeee dobby41. I didn't hear back from you. Are you, or have you been on the Labour payroll? I've seen this asked of you before without a reply. It would be good to clear it up.
I'm happy to declare I am not affiliated with any political party.....and never have been.

You're not going to get an answer from him, so I'll help you. Yes. He has been on their payroll for the last three years.

[Panda-NZ-]

Act = do not act.
The philosophy of don't do anything at all

[dobby41]

Actually they were mostly in rental properties now made unaffordable by Cindy's housing policies.

Who are now in those properties?
I asked you these questions already and I gather you don't have any answers - quick pokes are easier?

[Bjauck]

NZ spy agencies will still colaborate.

The "club" you are talking about is responsible for the Iraq and Afghanstan failures. all in it together and all failing.

Those three countries obviously think their alliance is worth formalising further and strengthening.