Labour govt 2020-23

[ynot]

The creation of the separate Maori health authority is proof enough of what Cindy is about.

Now we see the propaganda around 3 Waters, designed to hoodwink councils into handing over water control so Maoris have veto rights over water use.

Who is fooling who, Westerly? You happy to see separatism as the way forward for NZ - 16.5% of the population controlling the way NZ is in the future?

I would not be surprised if there are plenty of hard working Maori opposed to this BS.

[jonu]

Things are getting hot in the kitchen for Willie Jackson

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

This looks messy enough to run and run. Ardern's efforts to buy Maori support may have been flushed by the actions of one of her meddling Ministers.

Note the Minister's spokesperson's deflecting comments at the end, trying to point the mess back at the NZMC. Despite the obvious tension within the NZMC, the most serious allegation is that Jackson has withheld funding to support his own political mates.

[iceman]

Don't you need a fertility rate of about 2.1 to stay even?
So 1.7% would be a 0.4% decline?

I think the numbers Panda-NZ posted on population growth are based on running estimations from the 2018 Census and are significantly different to the real departure and arrival numbers reported by StatsNZ in 2020 & 2021. I think the estimations are obviously wrong here and probably in most countries, due to travel restrictions and border controls Worldwide.

[jonu]

Just in case you thought NZ media were gaining some semblance of integrity as the 100 million bribe runs out, here comes dear old RNZ with this doozy of a headline. Somehow NZ is a winner in an agreement Ardern says we weren't even consulted on. Given it involves nuclear subs that's not surprising...but seriously, being pushed further out of the nest gets spun as a win? Keep the cash flowing Cindy....they're loving it!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

[dobby41]

Just in case you thought NZ media were gaining some semblance of integrity as the 100 million bribe runs out, here comes dear old RNZ with this doozy of a headline. Somehow NZ is a winner in an agreement Ardern says we weren't even consulted on. Given it involves nuclear subs that's not surprising...but seriously, being pushed further out of the nest gets spun as a win? Keep the cash flowing Cindy....they're loving it!

https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/natio...?ocid=msedgntp

Would we want to be part of a deal sharing nuclear submarine stuff given our current policy setting, and law (Nuclear Free)?
Had they asked we would have had to say no wouldn't we?

[BDL]

She wasn't even asked, didn't even know about it, that's the biggest point.
She is not as important on the world stage as she likes to think she is.
It is also about sharing technology and cyber security.
More important to learn some te reo here in the Island of NZ ......

[jonu]

Would we want to be part of a deal sharing nuclear submarine stuff given our current policy setting, and law (Nuclear Free)?
Had they asked we would have had to say no wouldn't we?

That wasn't the point. Even Ardern didn't try to hide that. RNZ was doing it for her! ka-ching, ka-ching!

[Bjauck]

She wasn't even asked, didn't even know about it, that's the biggest point.
She is not as important on the world stage as she likes to think she is.
It is also about sharing technology and cyber security.
More important to learn some te reo here in the Island of NZ ......

As long as NZ is wed to its current nuclear stance, then we will not be party to these closer alliances involving our nuclear allies (that includes Australia now), no matter whether we have National or Labour PMs.

[ynot]

As long as NZ is wed to its current nuclear stance, then we will not be party to these closer alliances involving our nuclear allies (that includes Australia now), no matter whether we have National or Labour PMs.

Regardless of NZ's nuclear stance, as a Kiwi, I am grateful to the AUKUS for delivering this strong message to China.

[BDL]

Maybe we need to have a new look at our nuclear stance. Nuclear technology has come along way since then. Clean fission tech is getting closer all the time.
Also, we haven't had a world war since the advent of nuclear weapons, they may have in fact made the world safer.
But in NZ, we can speak te reo!! WOW Jacinda, such a great leader ....