Labour govt 2020-23

[ynot]

The media is significantly worse in Australia.

They wouldn't report on rape allegations on a particular cabinet minister, or the other misconduct of people in the government who pretend to be christians.
They won't report on the national debt Australia has accumulated compared to the previous government.


I prefer Micheal west, independent journalist.

https://www.youtube.com/c/TheWestReport/videos

Whats Australia got to do with it. We are discussing our woke government.

[dobby41]

I wonder what 100m can get you.....

It can't get Hosking taken off air!

[Balance]

https://interactives.stuff.co.nz/202...aanga-sisters/

Cindy & her huge promise of housing solution and affordability - now a complete housing disaster.

Well done, Cindy! Takes a special kind of incompetence and a complete nincompoop to turn a self-described crisis into a total disaster.

Kiwibuild, anyone?

[jonu]

Does any one else find it odd that, after months of Ardern and Hipkins refusing to put a target on vaccination levels, it is Andrew Little who finally starts touting 90% (presumably of those eligible) alongside a PR campaign calling for the same?

Oh, and the Herald giving an "explainer" (read government propaganda) alongside it.

Where were Ardern and Hipkins? Keeping at arm's length in case it turns to custard? Did Little drawer the short straw?

[Bjauck]

Don't even know what you are trying to get at there.

During "Pax Britannica" UK domination of the World, Aotearoa NZ ended up being colonised and was subsequently taken into two World Wars. During "Pax Americana" the Americans used nuclear bombs and undertook a nuclear weapons race with the Soviets. What will the upcoming "Pax Sinensis" bring?

[Bjauck]

With France's reaction to AUKUS threatening the Australia free trade deal currently being negotiated with the EU, will that create more opportunities for NZ? Or will NZ negotiators find that they get hit by fallout as result of NZ's close relationship with Australia?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...deal/100473106

[macduffy]

Does any one else find it odd that, after months of Ardern and Hipkins refusing to put a target on vaccination levels, it is Andrew Little who finally starts touting 90% (presumably of those eligible) alongside a PR campaign calling for the same?

Oh, and the Herald giving an "explainer" (read government propaganda) alongside it.

Where were Ardern and Hipkins? Keeping at arm's length in case it turns to custard? Did Little drawer the short straw?

Yes and yes. Needs a little explanation.

[dobby41]

Does any one else find it odd that, after months of Ardern and Hipkins refusing to put a target on vaccination levels, it is Andrew Little who finally starts touting 90% (presumably of those eligible) alongside a PR campaign calling for the same?

Oh, and the Herald giving an "explainer" (read government propaganda) alongside it.

Where were Ardern and Hipkins? Keeping at arm's length in case it turns to custard? Did Little drawer the short straw?

This is after Ashley saying the other day in the standup (with Robertson) that he'd like to see 90% or more (of population or eligible?) vaccinated.
It's a good target, 100% is better, but can we get there?
If we don't, does it mean we don't open up?
Would 85% be 'turned to custard' in your view? How about 87%, or 80%? (Even Israel has 'only' managed 69% of pop, and the UK 71%.)
This is the problem with a target, isn't it!

[Blue Skies]

Does any one else find it odd that, after months of Ardern and Hipkins refusing to put a target on vaccination levels, it is Andrew Little who finally starts touting 90% (presumably of those eligible) alongside a PR campaign calling for the same?

Oh, and the Herald giving an "explainer" (read government propaganda) alongside it.

Where were Ardern and Hipkins? Keeping at arm's length in case it turns to custard? Did Little drawer the short straw?

That's not quite correct & here's explanation as I see it.

What Little actually said was he couldn't see there being a return to Level 4, once 90% of pop vaccinated.

That's nothing about Levels 3, 2 1. & simply an encouragement for vax hesitant to get vaccinated.

Also while Grant Robertson (as Deputy PM & therefore speaking for the govt ) backed the Herald campaign as he said he would back any campaign which encouraged vaccination, he declined to say 90% was the target because they want to go higher that 90%.

We go higher than 90% with childhood vaccination rates so although highly ambitious, it is possible & worth aiming at.


Are you sure you're not looking for anything to back up deeply help preconceived negative views of the govt rather than rational based criticism ?

[Panda-NZ-]

With France's reaction to AUKUS threatening the Australia free trade deal currently being negotiated with the EU, will that create more opportunities for NZ? Or will NZ negotiators find that they get hit by fallout as result of NZ's close relationship with Australia?
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2021-09-...deal/100473106

If following a conventional military approach then Europe could want bases to be set up in Alaska to flank Russia or pressure China to get more concessions from them.

Though I would like to see a disinformation campaign against Putin using some of the same tactics they are using in other countries elections. In this case the ends justify the means. Social chaos can be created with only a laptop and internet connection and do far more than a submarine.


America doesn't want china to topple though because it will mean less cheap labour and an inflation spiral.