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07-10-2021, 01:18 PM
#3311
 Originally Posted by BlackPeter
You really should not point fingers to others when you are supporting one of the least effective and most xenophobe governments we ever had in New Zealand. Qualified people are not really trying anymore to move into NZ. I guess why would anybody with skills in demand try to get into a country which makes it so difficult to get in and which is so happy and careless to break on a whim the commitments it used to make towards migrants?
It might take decades for New Zealand's reputation to recover after the irresponsible Labour government destroyed it.
Meanwhile, Australia has opened up its doors to not just Kiwis (first preference) but to other nationalities as well in the essential services.
So sobering to observe in the last couple of years, 6 doctors (of whom 4 are specialists) I know have migrated to Australia - a blood specialist, a plastic surgeon, an anesthetist, a radiologist & his GP wife and a cardiologist. All educated and trained in NZ (save the GP).
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07-10-2021, 02:46 PM
#3312
Originally Posted by fungus pudding
Sterile, colourless and boring in my experience, the least interesting part of Asia. Then of course some people go to Australia and find Canberra attractive. But if you really like Singapore, pop over to Salt Lake City. It would blow your mind, it's so horrible. And while I've never been to Brasillia I'm told it's even worse - internationally recognised as the worst of all the planned cities. You'd probably love it!
You sound exactly like one of my ex-colleagues when we used to go to Singapore for our regional conferences. Boring as hell etc etc to her especially compared to the conferences in Bangkok and Hong Kong.
So one weekend, I asked one of the Singaporean attendees to take us all out of the city centre and out to the 'suburbs' where Singaporeans actually live and socialize. She was absolutely blown away by the various places we visited, especially the ethnic places - the variety, the colors and the friendliness of the people (almost all speak English), the food, the shopping, the clubs where we hung out until the wee hours - and the complete feeling of safety at all times. There is nothing quite like being in a club being served great food, great drinks, mingling with the locals and listening (& dancing) to a Filipino band playing. She has never ever described Singapore as boring since then.
If you want boring, try Auckland city from a tourist perspective!
Last edited by Balance; 07-10-2021 at 02:52 PM.
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07-10-2021, 03:13 PM
#3313
Originally Posted by Balance
Meanwhile, Australia has opened up its doors to not just Kiwis (first preference) but to other nationalities as well in the essential services.
So sobering to observe in the last couple of years, 6 doctors (of whom 4 are specialists) I know have migrated to Australia - a blood specialist, a plastic surgeon, an anesthetist, a radiologist & his GP wife and a cardiologist. All educated and trained in NZ (save the GP).
NZers are the first preference? Is that because with special category Kiwis they can tax them and then deny to them the full range of government services - hoping that if their luck runs out, they will have to return across the Tasman to access help from the NZ Government?
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07-10-2021, 03:15 PM
#3314
Originally Posted by Balance
You sound exactly like one of my ex-colleagues when we used to go to Singapore for our regional conferences. Boring as hell etc etc to her especially compared to the conferences in Bangkok and Hong Kong.
So one weekend, I asked one of the Singaporean attendees to take us all out of the city centre and out to the 'suburbs' where Singaporeans actually live and socialize. She was absolutely blown away by the various places we visited, especially the ethnic places - the variety, the colors and the friendliness of the people (almost all speak English), the food, the shopping, the clubs where we hung out until the wee hours - and the complete feeling of safety at all times. There is nothing quite like being in a club being served great food, great drinks, mingling with the locals and listening (& dancing) to a Filipino band playing. She has never ever described Singapore as boring since then.
If you want boring, try Auckland city from a tourist perspective!
Are the “ethnic” places in Singapore, the areas where ex-pat British and Australians live?
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07-10-2021, 03:24 PM
#3315
Originally Posted by Bjauck
NZers are the first preference? Is that because with special category Kiwis they can tax them and then deny to them the full range of government services - hoping that if their luck runs out, they will have to return across the Tasman to access help from the NZ Government?
Could well be except that the Aussies do dangle some extremely attractive inducements to entice NZers they want to cross over.
The doctors I mentioned got all their relocation expenses and all other expenses (rent, insurance, transport and a monthly food allowance) paid for the first year (including for 4 weeks’ holidays), double their NZ pay for half the working hours and assistance with getting dual citizenship after 5 years in Australia.
Let’s be blunt - our hospital system will collapse but for the migrant doctors & nurses from other countries.
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07-10-2021, 03:31 PM
#3316
Originally Posted by Bjauck
Are the “ethnic” places in Singapore, the areas where ex-pat British and Australians live?
Haha - know where you are coming from but no, they are the Little India, Malay villages, Chinatown and local housing centres. The clubs are mostly in the city or close to city centres.
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07-10-2021, 04:57 PM
#3317
Originally Posted by Balance
So sobering to observe in the last couple of years, 6 doctors (of whom 4 are specialists) I know have migrated to Australia - a blood specialist, a plastic surgeon, an anesthetist, a radiologist & his GP wife and a cardiologist. All educated and trained in NZ (save the GP).
If the highest population growth in the world does not satisfy, what would you prefer.
NZers should have something of a protective system in place.
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07-10-2021, 05:27 PM
#3318
The mood of the boardroom under any administration:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-3e0EkvIEM
The NZH should run a broader range of stories for the perpective of home buyers rather than investors.
Even the WP owned by bezos has stories about the pandora papers involving many NZ trusts.
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 07-10-2021 at 06:18 PM.
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07-10-2021, 05:35 PM
#3319
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"Prediction is very difficult, especially about the future" (Niels Bohr)
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07-10-2021, 06:15 PM
#3320
Last edited by Bjauck; 08-10-2021 at 07:43 AM.
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