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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    So the women who ventured into Northland reportedly to peddle their services (drugs & sex?) are connected with the Mongrel Mob, according to sources.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...HOT26JIUILYHU/

    Or if you are a gang member, you can do as you like, thanks to Cindy.

    So the law of NZ does not apply to the Mongrel Mob or Black Power as they are predominantly Maori - according to Cindy.

    As useless a government a country can get with Cindy, the most racist PM of NZ.
    Someone lies to get across the border.
    They may or may not belong to a gang (Winston says so must be right?).
    And that means the Govt condones gangs and they don't have to obey the laws?
    You really do say some stupid things and draw a stange logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Someone lies to get across the border.
    They may or may not belong to a gang (Winston says so must be right?).
    And that means the Govt condones gangs and they don't have to obey the laws?
    You really do say some stupid things and draw a stange logic.
    Look back at the interaction of Cindy’s government (especially her Maori ministers & MPs) with Maori gangs and it has been all about legitimising, emboldening & empowering them.

    That’s a fact.

    Think she will give the sex workers $2.7m to be taught about safe sex? Cindy was happy to do that to teach the gangs how to peddle drugs ‘safely’. At least some koha maybe so they will co-operate with the contact tracers?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Look back at the interaction of Cindy’s government (especially her Maori ministers & MPs) with Maori gangs and it has been all about legitimising, emboldening & empowering them.

    That’s a fact.

    Think she will give the sex workers $2.7m to be taught about safe sex? Cindy was happy to do that to teach the gangs how to peddle drugs ‘safely’. At least some koha maybe so they will co-operate with the contact tracers?
    As per usual you conflate things and what say are facts are not - they are just opinions.
    We know where you stand on the Labour Govt and you will never see anything positive or even neutral. You seek out anything that you can spin with your own hate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    As per usual you conflate things and what say are facts are not - they are just opinions.
    We know where you stand on the Labour Govt and you will never see anything positive or even neutral. You seek out anything that you can spin with your own hate.
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...-too-has-virus

    The information was already out there yesterday that the women in question are sex workers - and when you have the government ducking and diving instead of being truthful, you know the information is correct.

    Hard for Cindy to spin out of this one.

    She will still try though, being the spin mistress and purveyor of deviousness that she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...-too-has-virus

    The information was already out there yesterday that the women in question are sex workers - and when you have the government ducking and diving instead of being truthful, you know the information is correct.

    Hard for Cindy to spin out of this one.

    She will still try though, being the spin mistress and purveyor of deviousness that she is.
    Why would she need to spin it?

    So how does that then conflate to the Govt 'letting' gangs do what they want?
    They haven't been charged yet (but will be) - people like to get the pitchfork gang together at a drop of a hat.
    Last it was against Tamaki, before that it was the couple who went to Wanaka. Charged!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Why would she need to spin it?

    So how does that then conflate to the Govt 'letting' gangs do what they want?
    They haven't been charged yet (but will be) - people like to get the pitchfork gang together at a drop of a hat.
    Last it was against Tamaki, before that it was the couple who went to Wanaka. Charged!
    She is already spinning it via Hipkins pretending he did not know who the women are.

    Clueless Cindy is the one emboldening & empowering the Maori gangs through her interaction with them & her race based policies. That’s why they have been rubbing NZers’ noses with their virus spreading antics.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...o-haunt-labour

    COVID for Christmas - gift from Cindy & her team of incompetents!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...-too-has-virus

    The information was already out there yesterday that the women in question are sex workers -
    Times must be tough in that field of work - having to observe social distancing rules. There might be some tips in the Kama Sutra maybe.

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    What a pathetic government.
    We now have iwi taking over the policing of the roads illegally, while their Maori gangs spread the virus.
    And government just sits, watches and denies the truth.
    Never voting Greens again and never would vote racist Maori party.


    Like I said above :
    The current Labour/Jacinda government values - Maori gangs, drugs, guns, spreading Covid far and wide, (the rest of the country locked up like North Korea), but be kind, all learn te reo, respect violent Maori culture, ignore science, ignore climate change, ignore environment, encourage separatism and racism. Take peoples assets and give to Maori (14% of population) Don't call out human rights (China) but be kind, always.....
    What the hell is this government up to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    COLONIALISM.

    Those with their divisive agendas, cast Colonialism in a negative way, to brainwash the vulnerable, and put guilt on the colonials.

    In their sanitised version of history, they want you to believe pre European NZ was a south seas paradise of aroha and waiata, and the arrival of the Europeans destroyed it.

    Nothing could be further from the TRUTH.

    It was an ugly cesspit of:

    *Warfare.
    *Violence.
    *Cannibalism.
    *Slavery.
    *Bullying.
    *Sexual mutilation.
    *Tribalism.
    *Nepotism.
    *Elitism.
    *Misogyny.
    *Superstition.
    *Low life expectancy.

    Run by despot Rangitira's, all based around a stone age level of subsistence.

    A life of oppression, suppression and depression.

    All of the above led to the original settlers, the Moriori, being chased out and vanquished to the Chatham Islands.

    Who could advocate for such a society?
    Pause for a moment and contemplate what such a life would be like?

    Colonialism is the best thing that ever happened to most Maori, while some elite lament their loss of power, entitlement and privelege.
    Hence these elite lobbying Labour for a return to their status.
    Do they believe in trickle down?
    No way!
    They take the cake, and leave the crumbs.

    If Te Reo was such a toanga as you are told, why did so many Maori abandon it?

    Meanwhile, pre 1840 Waitangi Treaty, Europe was awash with Science, Technology, Engineering, Agriculture, Fine Arts, Literature, Architecture, Medical advances, Zoology, Gardens, Philosophy and Education.

    All imported to NZ by the Euro settlers.

    Which culture would you choose?, and celebrate?
    Colonialism rescued many folk and their descendants from a very miserable existence.

    Next time you see or hear colonialism being cast negatively, slap the above in their face!
    LOL - so you mean the Maoris behaved exactly the same way as the Europeans did? Most of the tick boxes you gave describe exactly the European behaviour in the past 2000 years (and probably before, just less well documented) - and certainly prior to the middle of the 19th century.

    Waging wars? YES - several big ones per century!
    Holding slaves - YES! the British, The Spanish, The Portuguese, The Belgians and probably some other European Nations made lots of money with turning free people into slaves and selling them or forcing them to work for them.
    Suppressing women - YES ... Europeans loved to do that. Some might say, some still do!
    Bullying - YES - quite generic human trait!
    Low Life Expectancy (prior to and around 1840) - YES - just look at child mortality in Europe prior to the introduction of vaccinations!

    Obviously - Europeans had the bigger numbers, the more effective weapons and as well enough resistance to a lot of dangerous illnesses which they liberally spread under the Maoris in order to weaken and eradicate them - as they did previously with the red Indians in the Americas and other indigenous people.

    You might well be right ... Europeans not a bit better than the Maoris - just more vicious ;
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