Labour govt 2020-23

[dobby41]

This was Cindy on mandatory/forced vaccination (22 Sept 2021) :

Slipped a year? That article is from 22/Sept 2020
A year is a long time with Covid and Delta.

Ah - but do you agree with it? (Of course, the person isn't forced to be vaccinated (which is what is in the first sentence of that article), the job is. You'll see that is weasel words but the distinction is important.)
I know you have problems agreeing with stuff you like if it comes from certain people (a character flaw people often fall into).
If they mandate no jab no job and no jab no pub will you complain about that as well even if you agree?

[Balance]

Going back on her assurances about no penalties for not getting the vaccine & unable to articulate a strategy against delta - all indicative of COVID Cindy showing who she really is - clueless.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/opinion/1266...da-wasnt-there

[Balance]

Slipped a year? That article is from 22/Sept 2020
A year is a long time with Covid and Delta.

Ah - but do you agree with it? (Of course, the person isn't forced to be vaccinated (which is what is in the first sentence of that article), the job is. You'll see that is weasel words but the distinction is important.)
I know you have problems agreeing with stuff you like if it comes from certain people (a character flaw people often fall into).
If they mandate no jab no job and no jab no pub will you complain about that as well even if you agree?

Weasel words indeed - like increasing the fuel tax is not a new tax because there is already a fuel tax?

Clueless Cindy under pressure shows she is cracking because she is all spin, no substance & no delivery.

[BlackPeter]

This was Cindy on mandatory/forced vaccination (22 Sept 2021) :

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...forced-to.html

"Jacinda Ardern went a step further, saying not only will there be no forced vaccinations, but those who choose to opt-out won't face any penalties at all."

This is Clueless Cindy via Hipkins today:

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...sector-workers

Mandatory vaccinations announced for health, education sector workers.

Running out of spin & options after her lockdown cure all remedy for covid failed and luck ran out at the same time.

Clueless Cindy Credibility is Completely Gone - except with the indoctrinated Cindy devotees.

Sigh ... damned if she does and damned if she doesn't. It does not matter at all what she is doing and you are caning her?

I am not a particular fan of her either, even if I think that there are some things she did right ... and obviously many things she either promised but didn't succeed in doing as well as things she didn't talk about but now tries to ram down our throat. However - caning her for everything she does including doing the right thing makes in my view any justified criticism less credible and effective.

I am all for mandatory vaccinations of health and teaching staff (and some more ....) . Makes sense - best way to protect the public. Good on her for enacting that (well, we will see - here is hoping) ... and hey, if she did change her mind about this subject on the way - I do that as well, if the information and / or the circumstances change - what about you?

[winner69]

Poor Jacinda can’t win

Goes on telly for an hour and ..

Not a mention of the South Island and the Chamber lady all grumpy

And no mention of business ….so Auckland man all grumpy

Can’t please everybody

[dobby41]

Weasel words indeed - like increasing the fuel tax is not a new tax because there is already a fuel tax?

Clueless Cindy under pressure shows she is cracking because she is all spin, no substance & no delivery.

You didn't even bother to correct your post.
Your record here isn't very good.

So, do you agree with the job mandate and just disagree with the messenger or do you disagree with the mandate?

[Balance]

Poor Jacinda can’t win

Goes on telly for an hour and ..

Not a mention of the South Island and the Chamber lady all grumpy

And no mention of business ….so Auckland man all grumpy

Can’t please everybody

Because most of NZers can now see Cindy is Clueless.

She has squandered the sacrifices made in the last year and half :

- no increase in healthcare facilities & capacities,

- immigration in a shambles so healthcare services are understaffed,

- MIQ facilities still in the heart of NZ's biggest population city (the virus loves her for that),

- borrowing $1 billion a week to bequeath to future generations to shoulder,

- last in the queue to roll out a proper vaccination program (where's the first in the queue),

- the list goes on and on!

[Balance]

https://www.nbr.co.nz/node/232030

This sums Adern the best :

"Clueless Cindy sends Auckland into deep coma with no wake-up plan."

Anyone of you with family or friends in business in Auckland will know that the situation out there is getting desperate for them, more so with a government which plays the race card (to distract from its non-delivery of the huge promises it made to get into power) to stay in power to screw up NZ even more for future generations.

Kiwibuild & affordable homes, anyone?

Covid for Christmas instead.

[dobby41]

Weasel words indeed - like increasing the fuel tax is not a new tax because there is already a fuel tax?

Clueless Cindy under pressure shows she is cracking because she is all spin, no substance & no delivery.

So you are just a lot of huff. No substance.

I'll ask again.
So, do you agree with the job mandate and just disagree with the messenger or do you disagree with the mandate?

[Balance]

So you are just a lot of huff. No substance.

I'll ask again.
So, do you agree with the job mandate and just disagree with the messenger or do you disagree with the mandate?

Does not matter what I think - more important that Cindy is delivering COVID for Christmas & she is clueless how to contain it except by making decisions on the hoof. Reactive and killing businesses & piling on debt with no coherent plan.