Labour govt 2020-23

[dobby41]

NZers said no to decriminalising cannibas so no industry there.

Cannabis
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/300...begins-harvest
https://puro.co.nz/

[BlackPeter]

China is a poor nation? First I've heard of it. They can - and will - continue to increase their omissions until 2030. 9 years of cooking the plant with the oven being turned up year on year, while your intense focus will be on turning 5 million NZers into a beacon of green socialism. Are you truly worried about the future of the planet or not?? You should be out of your mind over what is happening in the big polluting nations - that is where the battle is being lost and will continue to be lost. But no - you are like Napoleon being worried about winning a small skirmish between a handful of troops - it's neither here nor there, meanwhile Waterloo continues towards its inevitable conclusion. You are more concerned about pointless NZ virtual signalling than actually ensuring the survivability of the planet. Who cares if the bumper on your car has just been washed when the whole vehicle is going over the cliff?

Any single Kiwi has the same power

If 5 million Kiwi's eat plant protein and vote for Jacinda and James, that will ensure the planet doesn't cook? Ridiculous.

While your posts are full of arrogance, finger pointing and denial you are amazingly bad informed ...

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/

Chinas GPD per capita is 98% of the world average - i.e. they sit still a bit lower (per capita) than the average of all people on this globe and they are sitting between the Iraq (99%) and Brazil (91%).

So yes, China does have a lot of people, but the average Chinese person lives still more like anybody else in a developing country.

Just to compare - New Zealand's GDP per capita is 238% of the world average ... i.e. yes, we do have more wealth.

United States sits at 350%;

Of course has any single Kiwi the same power as any single Chinese or any single Brazilian to heal the planet - though, if money is involved, we even have roughly 2.5 times the power per person (if you use the numbers mentioned above) than the Chinese or the Brazilians.

Maybe you should put less effort into finger pointing and denial and instead put more effort into something positive like saving the planet ; Every little bit counts ...

[Logen Ninefingers]

I'd like to see a truly independent report on the alleged 'underfunding'.

I'd also like to know whether the claimants are seeking a multi billion dollar payment from NZ taxpayers, as it is not made clear excatly what is being sought by the claimants. Is it more funding in future, or another huge sum of money to put in the tribal coffers?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/12...alth-gaps-grow

Waitangi Tribunal: Lack of action on Māori health underfunding as health gaps grow
Bridie Witton
05:00, Oct 19 2021

The health gap between Māori and non-Māori continues to grow while Waitangi Tribunal claimants wait for the Crown to agree on a way to measure decades-worth of underfunding in Māori health.

The Waitangi Tribunal has released its final recommendations from its stage one of the Health Services and Outcomes Kaupapa Inquiry. Its first recommendations, released in 2019, included a call for the Crown and claimants to agree on a way to assess how much Māori primary health providers had been underfunded.

“After more than two years we are disappointed that no agreement has yet been reached and especially disappointed that this is largely due to the Crown not engaging with the claimants on this issue,” presiding officer Judge Damian Stone​ (Ngāti Kahungunu) wrote in its final report released on Tuesday.

The claimants commissioned their own independent report by Sapere which found Māori healthcare was massively underfunded by up to $531 million since 2003. It found $1 billion in extra investment a year would save the country $5b annually in health-related costs.

The inquiry also found multiple Treaty breaches and little improvement in Māori health outcomes despite the Crown investing some $220 billion into the health system since 2000.

[Logen Ninefingers]

While your posts are full of arrogance, finger pointing and denial you are amazingly bad informed ...

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/

Chinas GPD per capita is 98% of the world average - i.e. they sit still a bit lower (per capita) than the average of all people on this globe and they are sitting between the Iraq (99%) and Brazil (91%).

So yes, China does have a lot of people, but the average Chinese person lives still more like anybody else in a developing country.

Just to compare - New Zealand's GDP per capita is 238% of the world average ... i.e. yes, we do have more wealth.

United States sits at 350%;

Of course has any single Kiwi the same power as any single Chinese or any single Brazilian to heal the planet - though, if money is involved, we even have roughly 2.5 times the power per person (if you use the numbers mentioned above) than the Chinese or the Brazilians.

Maybe you should put less effort into finger pointing and denial and instead put more effort into something positive like saving the planet ; Every little bit counts ...

You are dreaming, we are not going to 'heal the planet' through our actions here in NZ. It is not about 'finger pointing', it is about simply stating facts - China and India will be increasing their emissions every year for the next 9 years - even as climate scientists have warned that we have reached a tipping point. So that's it: game over. And your reaction is smiley faces, laughable attempts to chastise me, and daft suggestions that somehow what we do here in NZ is going to make all the difference. New Zealand's emissions contribute approximately 0.17 per cent of the world's emissions.....it's not even a rounding error. You are just not a realist...you don't look at the facts and reach the correct conclusions. Instead you are living in a happy clappy fantasy land of your own creation.

[Balance]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...UHMCUB6JVPBLM/

Tsk tsk - Cindy pointing the finger at rule breakers for causing the sharp spike in COVID cases today.

Whatever happened to ‘ people are not the problem. People are the solution to the problem.’?

When the chips are down, a real leader takes responsibility & takes charge. Cindy has shown herself to be no real leader but a spin merchant.

COVID for Christmas - her gift to NZers this year.

Not hard & short, but soft & long - that’s Cindy’s lockdown.

[artemis]

NZers said no to decriminalising cannibas so no industry there.

Really? Do you live under a rock?

[dobby41]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/covid-...UHMCUB6JVPBLM/

Tsk tsk - Cindy pointing the finger at rule breakers for causing the sharp spike in COVID cases today.

Whatever happened to ‘ people are not the problem. People are the solution to the problem.’?

When the chips are down, a real leader takes responsibility & takes charge. Cindy has shown herself to be no real leader but a spin merchant.

COVID for Christmas - her gift to NZers this year.

Not hard & short, but soft & long - that’s Cindy’s lockdown.

People aren't the problem when they follow the rules - when they don't they are definitely the problem.
Context is a problem for you.

It is hard - that's why people are moaning.
Now long because people just can't help themselves - they have to congregate indoors and spread it.

[Logen Ninefingers]

People aren't the problem when they follow the rules - when they don't they are definitely the problem.
Context is a problem for you.

It is hard - that's why people are moaning.
Now long because people just can't help themselves - they have to congregate indoors and spread it.

What part of his post did you have an issue with? This government could have kept going 'hard' with Level 4 in Auckland for at least a couple more weeks ...instead they took the foot off the gas to arrest a decline in the polls and Delta said thanks very much. Cindy is ruled by the polls and what her army of spin doctors tell her, and we are all paying the price for it. 'Woke' policing and lax enforcement haven't helped - sex workers and gang bosses seem to do pretty much as they please, often with a free pass (exemption) to do so. Meanwhile ordinary citizens have to abide by the rules. Much easier for Cindy to blame shadowy and nebulous 'rule breakers' than to take any blame herself. Has she ever admitted fault ever? I was reading just yesterday that it is a hallmark of authoritarian regimes that they never own up to any errors, ever. Says a lot about Cindy's instincts.

[Logen Ninefingers]

While your posts are full of arrogance, finger pointing and denial you are amazingly bad informed ...

https://www.worldometers.info/gdp/gdp-per-capita/

Chinas GPD per capita is 98% of the world average - i.e. they sit still a bit lower (per capita) than the average of all people on this globe and they are sitting between the Iraq (99%) and Brazil (91%).

So yes, China does have a lot of people, but the average Chinese person lives still more like anybody else in a developing country.

Just to compare - New Zealand's GDP per capita is 238% of the world average ... i.e. yes, we do have more wealth.

United States sits at 350%;

Of course has any single Kiwi the same power as any single Chinese or any single Brazilian to heal the planet - though, if money is involved, we even have roughly 2.5 times the power per person (if you use the numbers mentioned above) than the Chinese or the Brazilians.

Maybe you should put less effort into finger pointing and denial and instead put more effort into something positive like saving the planet ; Every little bit counts ...

The person who is arrogant is IMO you. Instead of being a realist you'd rather badger Kiwi's into adopting your viewpoint, and if people don't agree with you you call them selfish. The endless crusade of the Left is to make an unfair world 'fair' - according to their own definition of fair, and moreover to make us all Left-thinking clones of each other.

[moka]

Great to see Labour and National working together on legislation to overcome the housing crisis.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/300433304/labour-national-announce-sweeping-housing-density-law-threestorey-homes-without-consent

Labour, National announce sweeping housing density law, three-storey homes without consent.
Environment Minister David Parker and Housing Minister Megan Woods are making the announcement alongside National leader Judith Collins and housing spokeswoman Nicola Willis in a rare show of bipartisanship.
“Working with National on these changes delivers stable enduring policy on urban density. This gives homeowners, councils, developers and investors certainty about enduring planning rules,” Woods said.

Collins said adversarial politics should be put aside in case of an emergency – and housing had become an emergency.
National has been pushing the Government to move faster to loosen planning laws and allow more housing to be built as prices have spiralled upwards.
Willis wrote to the Government earlier this year to offer bipartisan support for more drastic measures.
Parker and Woods wrote back to Willis in late-June and work has been ongoing since then.