Labour govt 2020-23

[Balance]

I think we all get that you don't like Jacinda, however this post is plain silly (as too many of yours ...).

Do you really not realise that Christian women, Jewish women and many Buddhist and Hindu women as well as Muslim women used to wear head scarfs for many centuries - and this had nothing to do with suppression. It is in countries with plenty of sun a good protection against sunlight, but yes - it is in many cultures as well used as symbol of modesty ... and it turned into being part of the culture.

If you open your eyes you might even discover that Christian nuns are still today covering their hair, as well as many elderly women in Christian based Mediterranean countries (e.g. in Southern Italy). They all wear it by choice.

It is pretty obvious for anybody with an open mind that our PM did wear the headscarf as sign of respect for a different culture instead of condoning the acts of a criminal authoritarian government.

You are consistently demonstrating blind hate and disrespect for other human beings. While there is no need to agree with the political goals or the implementation skills of our PM (I don't either) - I don't think she deserves your consistent and absolutely silly attacks.

And in fact - it is revolting posts like yours and from some other hard righters who are just driving people into the political left. Hardly any decent person would want to support a political camp which harbours so much hate, silliness and lack of respect.

Maybe you should start asking yourself what's wrong with yourself - and for a start - grow up!

Before you get on your high horse and mouth off more platitudes, know this :

Cindy did wear the hijab initially as a sign of respect for another religion & culture subject to a horrific terrorist incident and she was applauded widely for it. Bravo.

She continued to wear it however even after an Iranian group pleaded with her not to do so any further as it is a sign of oppression - why?

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/christchurch-shooting/116195738/dont-let-jacinda-arderns-headscarf-send-the-wrong-message

Because Cindy thought she was on to a real winner and that was more important to her than the plea NOT to pander any further to the oppressive nature of the hijab in certain Muslim countries.

Now, BP, get off your high horse and get real about what Cindy is all about - all spin & no delivery.

[dobby41]

Yay - free trade deal. Tariffs to fully come off sheep and beef meat 15 years from now. Well done everyone.

I expected as much from you.
15 years is more than anyone expected given what history has shown.
The agreement is more than just sheep and beef of course.

[fungus pudding]

I expected as much from you.
15 years is more than anyone expected given what history has shown.
The agreement is more than just sheep and beef of course.

Indeed it is. It also protects the obnoxious, barbaric haka.

[Logen Ninefingers]

Jacinda copping it from Maori, they are never happy. They wanted the cash incentives ages ago to buy their compliance with vaccinations. I'm glad to see Labour getting smashed, they wanted to make a faustian bargain & they are getting their just desserts.

[BDL]

"It is pretty obvious for anybody with an open mind that our PM did wear the headscarf as sign of respect for a different culture instead of condoning the acts of a criminal authoritarian government"

You don't have to "submit" your values to respect another culture. A headscarf has nothing to do with respect.
She only did the headscarf things for a "show", she is a lot more calculating than she is given credit for.

[Bjauck]

I expected as much from you.
15 years is more than anyone expected given what history has shown.
The agreement is more than just sheep and beef of course.

Honey and wine should do well. This UK government made a deal with their biggest trade partner (The EU) and then almost immediately decided they did not like it and decided not to implement those bits they did not like. So we will have to see if the same happens with the NZ deal when UK farmers kick up a fuss and the UK government wants to forget about this deal.

[BlackPeter]

Honey and wine should do well. This UK government made a deal with their biggest trade partner (The EU) and then almost immediately decided they did not like it and decided not to implement those bits they did not like. So we will have to see if the same happens with the NZ deal when UK farmers kick up a fuss and the UK government wants to forget about this deal.

Good point. British government is great in breaking and renegotiating contracts they signed if they find out they don't like them - just look at their games with the EU re North Ireland.

Not sure, why anybody still wants to make contracts with this bunch of untrustworthy people.

[dobby41]

Honey and wine should do well. This UK government made a deal with their biggest trade partner (The EU) and then almost immediately decided they did not like it and decided not to implement those bits they did not like. So we will have to see if the same happens with the NZ deal when UK farmers kick up a fuss and the UK government wants to forget about this deal.

We can look forward to cheaper Gin apparently

[Panda-NZ-]

Financial services too esp since UK are losing the EU as a customer.

I like using Wise for my personal overseas spending. 0.4% fee on foreign currency.

[Logen Ninefingers]

There should not be one single poor Maori in NZ.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/pou-tiaki/12...e-mori-economy

NZ-UK free trade deal 'game changing' for the Māori economy
Thomas Manch
17:02, Oct 21 2021

The New Zealand-United Kingdom free trade agreement could be “game changing” for the Māori economy, with indigenous trade explicitly included in the text of the deal.

Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on Thursday announced an in-principle free trade agreement had been reached with the United Kingdom, which would ultimately remove tariffs for all New Zealand exports in the coming 15 years.

An indigenous trade chapter in the deal, called “groundbreaking” by Ardern, says both countries will promote Māori interest in the free trade relationship. The chapter is among aspects of the deal for which the fine print is yet to be settled.

And the Māori economic interests, estimated to be worth more than $60 billion, appeared primed to gain from the deal. Chris Karamea Insley, chairman of the Te Taumata board that advises the Government on Māori trade, said there was “a lot to be happy about”.

"There's a lot to be celebrated about this agreement. Certainly, for Māori, in many ways it's game changing and precedent setting.

“From a Māori point of view, you've got to look at the entire agreement. When I say it's game changing, it's not just because there's been an inclusion of an indigenous chapter.

“If you look at a lot of the removal of the trade barriers in the market-access space ... We own half of the New Zealand fishing industry, the removal of these tariffs are game-changing for Māori.

“We need more foreign direct investment in New Zealand as Māori, because we struggle to get foreign investment from banks ... That too is massive.”

Insley said there had been “hard negotiation” to get the indigenous chapter included in the deal, as “the British felt that it was potentially going to be too far precedent setting in terms of the broader discussions elsewhere in the world”.

The chapter would formally recognise the Māori economy, Māori knowledge, and Māori worldview in the trading relationship, he said.

Also specified in the in-principle agreement was “a commitment by the UK to co-operate with New Zealand to identify appropriate ways to advance recognition and protection of the haka Ka Mate”.

The Ka Mate haka, which has become iconic due to the All Blacks performing it, was a foundation of New Zealand’s identity, Insley said.

“It's great, is all I can say, that it is recognised in that way that it's in here.”