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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Why would the Speaker need the same protection? The speaker is meant to be neutral, not some malicious, accusatory SOB maligning and bullying others while he is presiding over a review to stop those very things.
    So you are saying that the others who have protection are "malicious, accusatory SOB maligning and bullying" since they require the protection?
    By the way - I'm not defending Mallard at all and I'd like to see him gone.

    Was Tolley acting on Mallard's request?
    I think she has a mind of her own - she isn't silly!

    What value can we place on Mallard's apology when it is the taxpayer that bears the cost of his malicious idiocy?

    How can Ardern maintain confidence in a malicious, vindictive Speaker? Remember Mallard, again at our expense, tried to have the person named.

    Ardern is burning political capital,
    Agreed (I removed the last part of what you said because I don't agree with your conjecture).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Let her burn political capital.

    She can only fool so many people for so long - shxt stinks and it is a matter of time before the putrid smell comes out.
    One can only wonder at the vitriol in the comments of jonu and balance and the motivation behind them?
    Of more importance in the Mallard case is the amount of money paid to the lawyers which exceeds
    all other costs. The inability to pay legal costs prevents many from obtaining advice and representation and justice. An enquiry into the legal profession's charges is long overdue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    One can only wonder at the vitriol in the comments of jonu and balance and the motivation behind them?
    Of more importance in the Mallard case is the amount of money paid to the lawyers which exceeds
    all other costs. The inability to pay legal costs prevents many from obtaining advice and representation and justice. An enquiry into the legal profession's charges is long overdue.

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    I don't disagree with the general sentiment about the legal profession, however the more immediate problem is the malicious prick who is currently Speaker of the House and still has the confidence of our luvvy luvvy, be kind PM.

    Remember Mallard did this on the back of a Review into behavioural standards in Parliament Buildings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by westerly View Post
    One can only wonder at the vitriol in the comments of jonu and balance and the motivation behind them?
    Of more importance in the Mallard case is the amount of money paid to the lawyers which exceeds
    all other costs. The inability to pay legal costs prevents many from obtaining advice and representation and justice. An enquiry into the legal profession's charges is long overdue.

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    Just ask your law firm for a breakdown of their charges. That's all the enquiring you need. If you don't like the answer - go elsewhere.

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    Interesting statistics. Different to other countries, the huge increase in debt in NZ is all household and Government, not corporates. Canada doing really well !!
    https://www.visualcapitalist.com/wp-...he-world-1.png

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Changes nothing - why is Cynical Cindy standing by him?

    Which part of bullying, destroying a person’s life and getting off scot free in the land of kindness and compassion does Cindy not get?
    We will have to see how this plays out - it isn't over yet.
    Buy Anne had a big part to play in changing the rules and allowing the tax payer to pay but you just can't or won't see it.
    Expect Labour to play this angle up - it is politics after all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    We will have to see how this plays out - it isn't over yet.
    Buy Anne had a big part to play in changing the rules and allowing the tax payer to pay but you just can't or won't see it.
    Expect Labour to play this angle up - it is politics after all.
    dobby41 I think you are missing the main point, which is that Mallard falsely accused a person of a serious crime and destroyed his career and severely upset his personal life. He didn't need help from anyone. Did it all by himself. He even went further and never showed any contrition and tried, thankfully unsuccessfully, to have the man's name made public. What sort of perverse and sick person would do that. He has shown himself completely unsuitable for the Speaker's role and Jacinda should be ashamed of herself for supporting him. But then again, she owes him for all the protection he's given her in parliament.

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    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ng-wage-growth

    Runaway house prices - Cynical Cindy berated the previous government for a housing crisis and now, she does not have a clue how to tackle the housing disaster under her watch.

    The Government’s top economists have warned that house prices are likely to keep rising “for some time” as Treasury released its latest set of economic forecasts showing a nightmare scenario of house prices rising at about twice the rate of wages for the next five years.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-...S4JDX6Q6SDCNQ/

    The Trevor Mallard scandal laid bare.

    Excerpts :

    "Mallard's excuse for the rules being changed to make the taxpayer pick up the tab for his uncontrolled outburst was lame. Because he was facing the defamation action, that he must have known he would lose considering he knew the rape claim was wrong, he handed responsibility for the rule change over to his deputy, former National MP Anne Tolley.

    It removed any conflict of interest, he claimed. Yeah right."

    "Mallard told a shocked Parliamentary select committee that he knew within 24 hours that his rape claim was false. Well if that's the case why didn't he retract the claim and save the taxpayer almost $334,000? He said he didn't do that because the inquiry into the cuddle was being reinvestigated. That was reinforced by the head of Parliamentary services which carried out the original inquiry and found it was unsubstantiated."

    "Truth is more likely that he withdrew his rape claim now because if he did it last year chances are he wouldn't have survived a no-confidence vote in his Speakership. New Zealand First wouldn't have supported him.

    Next year he'll survive a vote with Labour's majority and with mother of kindness, well-being and transparency Jacinda Ardern saying he simply made a mistake and he's the man for the job. The man he maligned is out of a job and if now suffering ill health."
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