Labour govt 2020-23

[BlackPeter]

Look at Singapore and learn something from that country as to how to do public housing.

Simple.

So so simple.

Not quite comparable. Singaporeans are disciplined, polite, friendly and neither tend to have noisy garden parties during the nights nor do they throw their rubbish out of their windows.

It is much easier to house Singaporeans in high rises with well maintained and looked after communal garden facilities between the houses than it would be in New Zealand.

And to be fair - neither National nor Labour managed so far to find a solution for the housing shortage in New Zealand.

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Not quite comparable. Singaporeans are disciplined, polite, friendly and neither tend to have noisy garden parties during the nights nor do they throw their rubbish out of their windows.

It is much easier to house Singaporeans in high rises with well maintained and looked after communal garden facilities between the houses than it would be in New Zealand.

And to be fair - neither National nor Labour managed so far to find a solution for the housing shortage in New Zealand.

So why cant NZ evolve like that?

Its not a very high bar is it?

Or is warrior culture and bad parenting to blame?

[winner69]

Unemployment down to a record all time low of 3.4%

Well done Grant (and his team)

[BlackPeter]

So why cant NZ evolve like that?

Its not a very high bar is it?

Or is warrior culture and bad parenting to blame?

Good question ... If you find the answer you might solve not just our housing problem :

[Bjauck]

So why cant NZ evolve like that?

Its not a very high bar is it?

Or is warrior culture and bad parenting to blame?

I think you would need to look more at the British high rise public housing tower block experience to see how high density may pan out for NZ.

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I think you would need to look more at the British high rise public housing tower block experience to see how high density may pan out for NZ.

mmm, back to the caves then..

[BlackPeter]

I think you would need to look more at the British high rise public housing tower block experience to see how high density may pan out for NZ.

To be honest - there are good and bad examples of how to house people in high rises. The same however is true for housing people in low rises, and I think NZ shows next to some positive as well many negative examples.

Have a look around some of our over subdivided settlements with 300 sqm per house, a six foot dilapidated board fence all around each section and a 2.5 m wide driveway with limited access for any van or emergency services.

It can be a really pleasant experience to live in well build high rise with pleasant and considerate neighbours - and it can be hell to live on a twelfth of an acre section with some bad behaved neighbors next door ...

[Logen Ninefingers]

Unemployment down to a record all time low of 3.4%

Well done Grant (and his team)

But isn’t it “well done Adrian (and his team)”? (Also “well done Delta and his team for closing the borders and halting Labour’s mass immigration scheme so that the employment pool could tighten”).

This government palmed off responsibility for unemployment to the Reserve Bank when they made it part of their new dual mandate. You Lefties would be blaming the Reserve Bank if employment numbers crashed - talk about wanting to have your cake and eat it too.

[dobby41]

The clueless goverment continues to do ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about runaway house prices & collapsing housing affordabilty.

Shame of this feckless and thoroughly useless government.

I'm curious - what would work in your view?
Do you have the answers?

No answer to this?

[Logen Ninefingers]

No answer to this?

In 2017 the Labour campaign literature said that 'only Labour has a comprehensive solution to the housing crisis'.

Phil Twyford was on TV saying that Auckland was 'full up'. The message was clear: we couldn't cram in another living soul - the infrastructure was already creaking under the strain and we had a full blown housing crisis.

Labour had spent years screaming about a 'housing crisis' - a term that they spread far and wide & shouted from the rooftops.

So where is the 'comprehensive solution'? All I can see is a lazy foreign buyer ban that has achieved zilch, I think about 450 houses (I might be being generous there) have been built of the 100,000 promised, and hundreds of thousands of immigrants have been imported - many of them into a city that was apparently full up.

Of the KiwiBuild or social housing 'built' by this government, it turns out many of them were just existing stock puchased out from under the noses of first home buyers, while others were bought of the plan and re-branded as 'KiwiBuild'.

So the solution is obvious -

- Build the 100,000 affordable homes that were promised.

- Dramtically curb immigration from 2017 onwards until housing stocks have caught up.

- Don't drop your nuts and drop LVR's completely at the first sign of a pandemic.

- Don't tell the NZ public that house prices will always rise on your watch "as that is what Kiwi's expect".

- Incentivise saving and investment into the productive economy and away from housing.

- Stop providing subsidies to people to buy houses.

- Stop allowing people to gut their 'KiwiSaver' (supposed to be a pool of retirement savings) to buy houses.

I'm sure there are a truckload of other options that could be deployed to match Labour's words around a 'comprehensive solution' to the housing. If their feckless supporters actually held them to account rather than allow them to get away with a pack of lies maybe things might be different.