Labour govt 2020-23

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Six gang members have lost their firearms license

Government taking a hard line with gangs …good to see

Not very disarming though.

Just one less card to carry as far as they feel.

Just a headline to make Poto look potent to the naive.

It's their weapons the public have to fear, not their licenses.

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Some musings from the latest polling.

If the wives of places like Remuera, who love spending the income of their Tory husbands, but who give their party vote to the Greens, thinking they are helping a penguin out in the Ross dependency, but are actually supporting the looney left, wake up and vote for trendy Act instead, could be the end of the coalition.

If traditional Labour voters wake up to Jacinda's divisive direction, the resultant split would resemble that at the time of Rogernomics.

Which means, where will those red votes go?

Will they abstain, go TOPless, a new party emerge, or will NZ First have a sudden renaissance?

And if NZF get in, which party will they form coalition with?

A gamble, or a shambles?

Tail wag the dog, or hair of the dog?

Or will all this lead to the formation of the Pakeha Party?

[iceman]

To be fair - not really comparing apples with apples, is it?

Working in remote mines or on oil platforms somewhere in the middle of nowhere was always a much better paid job (and there is a good reason for it - otherwise they would not get anybody prepared to work for them), but there are still lots of people who prefer a family life and some healthy surroundings over the mighty dollar.

It is comparing the options freely available to young people. Not sure what your point is.

[BDL]

To be fair - not really comparing apples with apples, is it?

Working in remote mines or on oil platforms somewhere in the middle of nowhere was always a much better paid job (and there is a good reason for it - otherwise they would not get anybody prepared to work for them), but there are still lots of people who prefer a family life and some healthy surroundings over the mighty dollar.

You call this racist country a "heathy family life". Deluded.

[BlackPeter]

Not very disarming though.

Just one less card to carry as far as they feel.

Just a headline to make Poto look potent to the naive.

It's their weapons the public have to fear, not their licenses.

Well, yes - however now (without licence) is it much easier for police to lock them up if they find them carrying or in possession of a firearm.

Previously (with licence) they just had to show their licence with their arms and the police had to bugger off. Now they don't have a licence and the police can lock them up if they still are in possession of any weapons. I think this makes perfect sense ...

[BlackPeter]

It is comparing the options freely available to young people. Not sure what your point is.

My point is - the options you listed (electrician in NZ community vs. working in a mine in the Australian desert) have nothing to do with the difference between NZ and Australia. Jobs for experts who need to live in unfriendly climatic conditions and far away from family are always better paid - and always have been.

Sure - some people will go for the money and some for a family and a life. Money is not everything for everybody.

What do you expect our government to do to prevent your son from going to the mines and choose instead life and work in NZ? If we double all our salaries - would this make a difference? Of course, not - the Australian mines would do that as well and the consumer prices would follow soon.

[iceman]

My point is - the options you listed (electrician in NZ community vs. working in a mine in the Australian desert) have nothing to do with the difference between NZ and Australia. Jobs for experts who need to live in unfriendly climatic conditions and far away from family are always better paid - and always have been.

Sure - some people will go for the money and some for a family and a life. Money is not everything for everybody.

What do you expect our government to do to prevent your son from going to the mines and choose instead life and work in NZ? If we double all our salaries - would this make a difference? Of course, not - the Australian mines would do that as well and the consumer prices would follow soon.

You seem to have overlooked that I was responding to the below post from Panda. No expectation of the Government to do anything about it. As dobby says above, it is a great opportunity for young people to do for a period of time and save some money to set themselves up.

Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
Will Aussies start coming to NZ?

Lower rents [tick]
Higher minimum pay [tick]
Better jobless rate [tick]

The only thing remaining is that median wage disparity."

[Logen Ninefingers]

Jacinda referring to "Minister Liddle" in her latest 'Propaganda Rant from the Podium'. Anyone know who this Liddle person is??

[Bill Smith]

Chipkins and Robber son have delivered on a promise. Early too. Covid into South island by Christmas. Well done.

[fungus pudding]

Jacinda referring to "Minister Liddle" in her latest 'Propaganda Rant from the Podium'. Anyone know who this Liddle person is??

Her pronunciation has never bin good.