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    Let's see how forgiving or kind the General Public are going to be of this rapidly
    worsening situation due to Govt's failure to control it:

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/hea...icron-outbreak

    Covid-19: 'Sharp increase' as 810 new community cases reported in Omicron outbreak

    The protests in Wellington may well be just the tip of widespread deeper & growing dissatisfaction
    of this Govt and what it has or mostly hasn't achieved

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    ..... For whom the polls tell.
    Very clever! Mind you, on current polling the 'tell' is a Labour / Green government in 2023.

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    Jacinda can seal the deal by removing the coat tail rule.

    Act will soon fall below 5% as I predicted months ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
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    Who has FAILED on Rental Accomodation demands & growing queues ?

    Who tried to blame the associated market demands FALSELY on Rental Property
    Owners providing solutions to this ?

    Who thought they could control the Market by imposing Criteria limiting sales
    Taxing within Brightline periods ? ....
    Are they failures though? I'm sure Labour carefully considered the impacts of net migration and their rental policies on supply before legislating.

    Meanwhile, Christchurch tenants are in trouble, see link. A property manager there said ''... the situation was caused by more landlords selling up. “They’ve had two years of extra tax and compliance costs, and with real estate prices high their property is worth more. We’ve had a lot of landlords sell up and pick up the capital gain.”

    True enough but most of the cause is government policies. Certainly a noticeable upward shift in properties for sale, though to be fair 2021 was pretty weird.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/pro...t-higher-rents

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Very clever! Mind you, on current polling the 'tell' is a Labour / Green government in 2023.
    Not according to the latest poll (Roy Morgan) :

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8...2-202202072332

    Support for a potential National/ Act NZ coalition government is now at 48.5% and clearly ahead of the current Labour/ Greens government of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on 43.5%.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    Are they failures though? I'm sure Labour carefully considered the impacts of net migration and their rental policies on supply before legislating.

    Meanwhile, Christchurch tenants are in trouble, see link. A property manager there said ''... the situation was caused by more landlords selling up. “They’ve had two years of extra tax and compliance costs, and with real estate prices high their property is worth more. We’ve had a lot of landlords sell up and pick up the capital gain.”

    True enough but most of the cause is government policies. Certainly a noticeable upward shift in properties for sale, though to be fair 2021 was pretty weird.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/pro...t-higher-rents


    Of course they're failures

    If the participants in the market are the very ones that may be able to get you out of
    an increasingly difficult bind - you dont go forgetting what the original issue was
    to try and blame the other participants and turn them away ..

    That only compounds the issue further, which is exactly what has happened.

    Who can blame some in the sphere from finally having had a guts full of a Govt
    who would rather attack those providing Accomodation than fixing it - resulting
    in sell ups and more in the queue ?

    Property price rises are symptom of the prevailing market conditions

    - Record Returnees
    - Limited new stock on the market / being built (Brightline / Interest deduction / material for builds etc)
    - Low Interest rates
    - Record & increasing buyer demand
    - Huge amounts of excess credit availability

    Let's face it All or most rental properties at some point will end up on the market

    If Govt wants to suffocate something in onerous bureaucracy & red tape, an
    administration process that favours tenants over property owners (the later
    being painted by Govt in many cases wrongly as the Big Bad Wolf) and make
    Landlords target practice, then a growing degree of attrition should be expected

    Overall Govt's handing of the property market, wrongly thinking they can control
    free market operating) while not performing on what they set out to achieve
    and were expected to, represents an overall FAIL for this Government

    The same Pass mark as they should be awarded for almost anything else they
    touched across their terms to date - that is an overall Fail on a job in the main
    poorly initiated, delivered on (if at all)


    The Residential Rental Property market has seen changes along the way which have
    lead to the current crisis:

    1. Removal of Depreciation deduction
    2. Limitation of Interest deduction
    3. Bright Line restriction on sales / Tax

    4. Huge Rental demand
    5. Exit of former owners with the changes
    6. Excess Build Demands at time of Materials Supply issues


    Who would want to be a landlord when successive Govt's have shown
    they are incapable of seeing the light on what is needed to solve a
    potential future problem ?

    Potential new RRP owners would have to be very brave, in face of the
    Socialist ideals of the current Govt still in play (abeit in head winds)

    There are other far more attractive investments areas without all the nonsense

    The RRP market operated quite happily in times of earlier Labour Govt terms
    (ie Clark/Cullen) suppling a good proportion of market demand before
    Government meddling started to change all that ..

    That is why we have a problem now and the current Govt have failed to demonstrate
    that they any clues on how to fix or improve what has evolved for the better IMO
    Last edited by nztx; 13-02-2022 at 03:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Not according to the latest poll (Roy Morgan) :

    https://www.roymorgan.com/findings/8...2-202202072332

    Support for a potential National/ Act NZ coalition government is now at 48.5% and clearly ahead of the current Labour/ Greens government of Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern on 43.5%.
    True enough, though I wouldn't put money on it as sentiment is very volatile. RM polls do have a good track record of being close to election day actuals.

    The next government is going to be no fun to run or for the shrinking pool of net taxpayers. Labour / Green >>> karma.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    True enough, though I wouldn't put money on it as sentiment is very volatile. RM polls do have a good track record of being close to election day actuals.
    It's what is often called a honeymoon (as good as it gets).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Of course they're failures ....
    Unless it pushes forward the Great Reset. In which case, minor blips on the way to the NWO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by artemis View Post
    True enough, though I wouldn't put money on it as sentiment is very volatile. RM polls do have a good track record of being close to election day actuals.

    The next government is going to be no fun to run or for the shrinking pool of net taxpayers. Labour / Green >>> karma.

    Very true indeed

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