Labour govt 2020-23

[Logen Ninefingers]

The unions control the Labour Party and always have. Just look at the way the party leader is elected for a prime example. I have a laugh at the so-called independence of the Reserve Bank when Labour passed a law which added employment to their mandate, additional to inflation targeting. So now if unemployment is on the rise the Reserve Bank is duty bound to deploy unconventional monetary policy to deal with it. Previously it would have been the governments responsibility to deal with it.

The Labour Party is there to run the country on behalf of the unions and to do so they need to con enough people into voting for them as is necessary to gain and hold power. Just look at the policies they actually do introduce: more sick leave and an extra public holiday, and increases in the minimum wage. It’s all on the Union wishlist, while most other stuff is neglected. This is a deeply cynical government hiding behind a mask of kindness and other buzzwords.

[Balance]

The unions control the Labour Party and always have. Just look at the way the party leader is elected for a prime example. I have a laugh at the so-called independence of the Reserve Bank when Labour passed a law which added employment to their mandate, additional to inflation targeting. So now if unemployment is on the rise the Reserve Bank is duty bound to deploy unconventional monetary policy to deal with it. Previously it would have been the governments responsibility to deal with it.

The Labour Party is there to run the country on behalf of the unions and to do so they need to con enough people into voting for them as is necessary to gain and hold power. Just look at the policies they actually do introduce: more sick leave and an extra public holiday, and increases in the minimum wage. It’s all on the Union wishlist, while most other stuff is neglected. This is a deeply cynical government hiding behind a mask of kindness and other buzzwords.

Simple question to Cynical Cindy :

"Does Trevor Mallard's behavior pass the sniff test?"

Cindy has got to be the biggest hypocrite and consummate con-artist around.

[Baa_Baa]

Simple question to Cynical Cindy :

"Does Trevor Mallard's behavior pass the sniff test?"

Cindy has got to be the biggest hypocrite and consummate con-artist around.

It's not about whether Trevor passes the test or how embarrassing he is to himself, it's about what the alternatives are. Remember the Speaker is elected by the house (which labour control), even a rotter isn't going to be despatched until an alternative is found and no alternative at this stage is more partisan or palatable to the Labour party.

Live with it, it's politics, he's going nowhere until someone at least as partisan and less controversial emerges. Perhaps you have some candidate suggestions?

[fungus pudding]

A couple of articles for Jacinda and her merry band of pollies to read, from a former Labour MP.

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/...ultural-cringe

https://www.bassettbrashandhide.com/...ory-in-schools

[Logen Ninefingers]

It's not about whether Trevor passes the test or how embarrassing he is to himself, it's about what the alternatives are. Remember the Speaker is elected by the house (which labour control), even a rotter isn't going to be despatched until an alternative is found and no alternative at this stage is more partisan or palatable to the Labour party.

Live with it, it's politics, he's going nowhere until someone at least as partisan and less controversial emerges. Perhaps you have some candidate suggestions?

Yeah, Cindy gets to pass herself off as a genuine person, while all the while she’s an utterly ruthless politician. Machiavellian is the word. Why do we accept such cynicism?

[Balance]

It's not about whether Trevor passes the test or how embarrassing he is to himself, it's about what the alternatives are. Remember the Speaker is elected by the house (which labour control), even a rotter isn't going to be despatched until an alternative is found and no alternative at this stage is more partisan or palatable to the Labour party.

Live with it, it's politics, he's going nowhere until someone at least as partisan and less controversial emerges. Perhaps you have some candidate suggestions?

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-...GYKO36WNMUGSI/

Truth is that the Opposition is happy to let Trevor Mallard stay in the job - his presence destroys any moral or ethical authority that Cindy & her government used to command.

Cindy can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time but history serves the lesson that she cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

Disgusting, repugnant, hypocrite and clueless - that's Cindy Adorn.

Excerpt :

"Jacinda Ardern preaches about it time and again: How we should all be kind to each other and to look after our wellbeing.

Well, the Prime Minister's just lost all moral authority to preach to us about niceness, because on that score she's failed miserably - and so have her Labour sheep in Parliament.

Perhaps they felt the argument for removing him would have been so overwhelming - and it would have been - that their defence of him would have burned their political capital in bucket loads.

So in reality they are now telling us it's okay to call a man a rapist, to ruin his life leaving him bereft and jobless? Well, that would seem to be the case.

For Ardern to simply say Mallard made a mistake and he's atoned with an apology for it is simply not good enough.

I lived under a hail of social media abuse and vitriol which of course paled into insignificance compared to what Mallard's target was condemned to live through.

This has been the shabbiest episode of inequality that I've experienced since starting work at Parliament before Jacinda Ardern was born.

If this is the Prime Minister's view of being kind and caring for the wellbeing of others, I'm most certainly not on the team five million to whom she so frequently refers.

[jonu]

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/barry-...GYKO36WNMUGSI/

Truth is that the Opposition is happy to let Trevor Mallard stay in the job - his presence destroys any moral or ethical authority that Cindy & her government used to command.

Cindy can fool all of the people some of the time, and some of the people all of the time but history serves the lesson that she cannot fool all of the people all of the time.

Disgusting, repugnant, hypocrite and clueless - that's Cindy Adorn.

Excerpt :

"Jacinda Ardern preaches about it time and again: How we should all be kind to each other and to look after our wellbeing.

Well, the Prime Minister's just lost all moral authority to preach to us about niceness, because on that score she's failed miserably - and so have her Labour sheep in Parliament.

Perhaps they felt the argument for removing him would have been so overwhelming - and it would have been - that their defence of him would have burned their political capital in bucket loads.

So in reality they are now telling us it's okay to call a man a rapist, to ruin his life leaving him bereft and jobless? Well, that would seem to be the case.

For Ardern to simply say Mallard made a mistake and he's atoned with an apology for it is simply not good enough.

I lived under a hail of social media abuse and vitriol which of course paled into insignificance compared to what Mallard's target was condemned to live through.

This has been the shabbiest episode of inequality that I've experienced since starting work at Parliament before Jacinda Ardern was born.

If this is the Prime Minister's view of being kind and caring for the wellbeing of others, I'm most certainly not on the team five million to whom she so frequently refers.

Tells it how it is does Mr Soper.

"Shabbiest episode" he's seen in 40 years. Early days I gave Ardern the benefit of the doubt as to her absolute cynicism. Now I'm convinced she's worse than Muldoon. With the even more dangerous Andrew Little alongside who knows what damage they will inflict on our society?

[macduffy]

Yes, Barry Soper's spot on with this!

I'm starting to think that this nonsense about wearing ties in the House is a diversionary tactic to take attention away from the Speaker. IMO Maori members should be free to express their culture - but should also respect Western culture. eg take your hat off, indoors!

[fungus pudding]

Yes, Barry Soper's spot on with this!

I'm starting to think that this nonsense about wearing ties in the House is a diversionary tactic to take attention away from the Speaker. IMO Maori members should be free to express their culture - but should also respect Western culture. eg take your hat off, indoors!

...and wear a tie.

[Logen Ninefingers]

Well Mallard has scrapped the tie rule now. What a farce.