Labour govt 2020-23

[davflaws]

Yep, that dav has some flaws all right...

Juvenile! Maybe you need a "boot up the bum" from the local cop to teach you some manners and make sure you don't progress to stealing cars and ram raiding toy stores.

[Getty]

I quoted enough of Getty's post to support my suspicion that his "tough on crime", "boot up the bum" beliefs have at least as much to do with his testosterone level and political inclinations as any "facts" about what works in reducing crime by young people.

Yep, its all poverty and colonisation isn't it?

No bad parenting, or failure to instill any values.

Hmm, now how did pre Euro Maori deal with crime?
No boots, because they didn't have any?

Lets try some co governance.

Where to when that doesn't work?

Ah, blame the Asians?

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Juvenile! Maybe you need a "boot up the bum" from the local cop to teach you some manners and make sure you don't progress to stealing cars and ram raiding toy stores.

Perhaps I did get one, and it seems to have suppressed my desire to steal and destroy other peoples' property.

[davflaws]

The expert on crime, who spoke on the first quarter of Q & A this morn, I didn't catch his name, closed in response to a question, by stating that if NZ comes down hard on crime, will make it worse!

Ian Lambie worked at the "pain face" for 30 years with dysfunctional families, disadvantaged kids, abuse victims, and young people enrolled in the"justice system" as it was then. He was among the two or three most effective workers in the country and developed an international reputation.

He was influential in developing many of the progressive policies in the youth justice area that have worked and are working to divert disadvantaged kids from the "life of crime" treadmill that leaves a trail of victims, wastes ****loads of human potential and costs us zillions.

A few years back he went into academia, and now teaches social work. His comments referred to the substantial research base which shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that a "tough on crime" stance increases lifetime offending, recidivism and severity, however good it may be politically for the right wing,

[davflaws]

Yep, its all poverty and colonisation isn't it?

No bad parenting, or failure to instill any values.

Have you ever considered that one might lead to the other in many cases?

[westerly]

Not just South Auckland - started with $50 petrol vouchers and then, $150 supermarket & prezzy card vouchers. Shop assistant at a liquor store in Northland told of the story of the prezzy cards being used to buy hard liquor.

Not a day goes by without evidence of just how incompetent but arrogant this Ardern government is :

Ardern does not have $400k for Plunket to keep services going

but

She has $600k a year to pay for empty office space for Auckland cycle bridge staff.

Long term lease space rented 3 weeks before she scrapped the Auckland $785m cycle bridge.

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...e-to-lie-empty

She obviously thinks money grows on trees the way she throws it at everything which takes her fancy - especially to buy votes.

$400k for plunket? Have you a link?

westerly

[stoploss]

$400k for plunket? Have you a link?

westerly

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...ack-of-funding

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Whats Jacinda's regime doing to the country?

Tv3 news now tells us Maori and Pasifica truancy from our schools has reached as high as 56%,

This does not bode well for the future.

For All the money this Labour govt has dished out on social spending, has anything improved, anywhere?

ElectroLux will be busy when the electorate plugs him in to hoover up this mess!

[Baa_Baa]

Whats Jacinda's regime doing to the country?

Tv3 news now tells us Maori and Pasifica truancy from our schools has reached as high as 56%,

This does not bode well for the future.

For All the money this Labour govt has dished out on social spending, has anything improved, anywhere?

ElectroLux will be busy when the electorate plugs him in to hoover up this mess!

The legacy of one-two years of not being able to go to school, only the future will know the effects of that. But now it's not surprising imo that 'truancy' is high (like it's suddenly a bad thing not turning up to school) as recent family behaviours have become entrenched. Sadly while for many this might not be much of problem, for those who didn't go to school anyway and probably quite a lot more now, it is a gulf of future knowledge and abilities.

[iceman]

Whats Jacinda's regime doing to the country?

Tv3 news now tells us Maori and Pasifica truancy from our schools has reached as high as 56%,

This does not bode well for the future.

For All the money this Labour govt has dished out on social spending, has anything improved, anywhere?

ElectroLux will be busy when the electorate plugs him in to hoover up this mess!

Don't be like that. Be kind