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08-08-2022, 09:21 PM
#7031
Originally Posted by ynot
My bet is Jacinda will bail before the election. Her history for not fronting when the going gets tough is in her DNA. She now knows she has no chance next year and will disappear prior leaving Robo or some other mug to carry the can.
The Unions are very influential in deciding the Labour leader these days and are more likely to install one of their own such as Michael Woods I reckon.
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08-08-2022, 09:39 PM
#7032
Originally Posted by Balance
I read somewhere recently even the UN are showing a little more care with who they employ these days. Have they had some negative results ? Not sure if that's the case but if so she may have missed the boat there.
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09-08-2022, 07:16 PM
#7033
Originally Posted by ynot
My bet is Jacinda will bail before the election. Her history for not fronting when the going gets tough is in her DNA. She now knows she has no chance next year and will disappear prior leaving Robo or some other mug to carry the can.
You are being too pesim - of course Labour have a chance next year - it’s MMP stupid.
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09-08-2022, 07:16 PM
#7034
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09-08-2022, 07:20 PM
#7035
Originally Posted by Balance
For what’s it’s worth I think it’s a fair bet that Labour will have a new leader heading into next election.
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09-08-2022, 07:54 PM
#7036
Originally Posted by Balance
Originally Posted by tim23
For what’s it’s worth I think it’s a fair bet that Labour will have a new leader heading into next election.
I'm not so sure, we know she doesn't like being a loser and thrives on her popularity, but is also aware of her positive populism effect on Labours chances. Must be an awful conundrum for her to reconcile, like do I leave and appear to be abandoning the Labour party to avoid being a loser because they almost certainly will lose without her, or do I stay and risk Labour losing the election and personally being a loser because of it and stuck with them as the leader. Tough choice.
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09-08-2022, 08:04 PM
#7037
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
I'm not so sure, we know she doesn't like being a loser and thrives on her popularity, but is also aware of her positive populism effect on Labours chances. Must be an awful conundrum for her to reconcile, like do I leave and appear to be abandoning the Labour party to avoid being a loser because they almost certainly will lose without her, or do I stay and risk Labour losing the election and personally being a loser because of it and stuck with them as the leader. Tough choice.
She'll be gone before next election, leaving the impression to overseas observers that her resignation caused Labour's collapse. Be a sensible move; far better for her future than losing an election by a large margin which is inevitable.
'While youi're ahead --- stay ahead'
Last edited by fungus pudding; 09-08-2022 at 08:07 PM.
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09-08-2022, 08:08 PM
#7038
Originally Posted by Baa_Baa
I'm not so sure, we know she doesn't like being a loser and thrives on her popularity, but is also aware of her positive populism effect on Labours chances. Must be an awful conundrum for her to reconcile, like do I leave and appear to be abandoning the Labour party to avoid being a loser because they almost certainly will lose without her, or do I stay and risk Labour losing the election and personally being a loser because of it and stuck with them as the leader. Tough choice.
yes, must be a conundrum. Obsessed with her own importance on the one hand and absolutely terrified of rejection on the other.
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09-08-2022, 08:17 PM
#7039
Originally Posted by ynot
yes, must be a conundrum. Obsessed with her own importance on the one hand and absolutely terrified of rejection on the other.
In her heart, Ardern knows NZers have seen through her - all spin and no delivery. And with a racist agenda to snare Maori votes.
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09-08-2022, 08:25 PM
#7040
Originally Posted by Balance
In her heart, Ardern knows NZers have seen through her - all spin and no delivery. And with a racist agenda to snare Maori votes.
As FP said she will let Labour burn in hell as she has absolutely zero consideration to anything or anyone but herself. Cold as a mackerel.
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