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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    For a govt granted with a 4 seat majority they do focus on a curious set of issues. The opposition does have a point with NZ being the most efficient farmers in the world.

    The greens vote has nowhere to go esp with the pro oil-drilling, add more cars & trucks national.

    NZ farmers are not the most efficient farmers in the world, that's just something parroted by National for political purposes & a small group of farmers (Groundswell) who expect the rest of us Kiwis to subsidise their emissions & despite the devastating effects of climate change on agriculture, continue to resist any change.

    Here's a very good fact checker which dispels some of the myths & misinformation Groundswell & National are promoting.


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...aints-stack-up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    NZ farmers are not the most efficient farmers in the world, that's just something parroted by National for political purposes & a small group of farmers (Groundswell) who expect the rest of us Kiwis to subsidise their emissions & despite the devastating effects of climate change on agriculture, continue to resist any change.

    Here's a very good fact checker which dispels some of the myths & misinformation Groundswell & National are promoting.


    https://www.stuff.co.nz/environment/...aints-stack-up
    As per my post on the Global Warming thread. The fact checking is dubious at best.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    Yep, its all about being fair to the crims.
    Let face it - a government which is not fair to everybody is fair to nobody ... and hey, we do know that it is easy in NZ to get locked up without fault. Plenty of examples where lynch mentality in police and courts brought the wrong people for long times behind bars. Hey, somebody has to pay, right?

    If you happen to be the next, than maybe you would be glad if you have still some rights behind bars ... :
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    Took 3 tries before Ardern admitted that the child poverty stats in NZ do not include the 4,000+ children in emergency housing etc.

    And she said she personally took charge of eradicating child poverty in 2017 because it is a disgrace that there are children in emergency housing and living in cars!

    https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/polit...y-figures.html

    Clueless and useless = Ardern, the mistress of spin & BS

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    Obviously - if things go bad, it is always the fault of a Labour government. I think the resident thread dwellers can agree on that.

    And as obviously - if something does go right, it must be either an accident or somebody other than Labour did a great job!

    Just came across this article in the Herald .... it seems like NZ Police does get a hold on the recent spree of gang related violence - using plain old speed tickets and traffic infringement notices and collecting illegal weapons along the way!

    Operation Cobalt was launched in July to respond to a spike in intimidating behaviour and violence by gangs, particularly the drive-by shootings between the Killer Beez and Tribesmen in Auckland, in the first half of the year.

    Since then, the police have seized 199 firearms and laid 12,900 charges in court, as well as confiscating commercial quantities of drugs and large sums of cash.

    But it's the Land Transport Safety Act which has been deliberately used as part of a strategy to disrupt gang members, according to the officer in charge of Operation Cobalt, with 15,500 traffic infringement notices issued.
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/operat...5c276a09e442f5

    (Sorry - paywalled, but fun to read ...)

    Good on them .... and now - lets continue to blame the government. Pretty cold day, today - isn't it? Must be the governments fault ... they don't produce enough hot air ...
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Obviously - if things go bad, it is always the fault of a Labour government. I think the resident thread dwellers can agree on that.

    And as obviously - if something does go right, it must be either an accident or somebody other than Labour did a great job!

    Just came across this article in the Herald .... it seems like NZ Police does get a hold on the recent spree of gang related violence - using plain old speed tickets and traffic infringement notices and collecting illegal weapons along the way!

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/operat...5c276a09e442f5

    (Sorry - paywalled, but fun to read ...)

    Good on them .... and now - lets continue to blame the government. Pretty cold day, today - isn't it? Must be the governments fault ... they don't produce enough hot air ...
    Garbage as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Let face it - a government which is not fair to everybody is fair to nobody ... and hey, we do know that it is easy in NZ to get locked up without fault. Plenty of examples where lynch mentality in police and courts brought the wrong people for long times behind bars. Hey, somebody has to pay, right?

    If you happen to be the next, than maybe you would be glad if you have still some rights behind bars ... :
    Righto, rig the entire Corrections Dept to reflect the welfare of the few that are innocent, rather than the vast majority who are not.

    Kelvin and Cinders have got 12 months to do it.

    Hey bro, where's our KFC for tea, have the screws pinched it?

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    Prison population consists of Labour demographics supporters - why Ardern & Davis are so very keen to look after them. That’s the only reason - votes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Prison population consists of Labour demographics supporters - why Ardern & Davis are so very keen to look after them. That’s the only reason - votes.
    Interesting statement - just more hot air from you or would you have any evidence to support your both claims?

    1) "Prison population consists of Labour demographic supporters" - so you say, there are no supporters of ACT, National, the Green party, NZF, the funny bishop, Advantage (or however the idiots are called) in prison? You are saying that the NZ justice system is only incarcerating Labour supporters? Do you have any evidence for this outrageous claim?

    2) "That's the only reason - votes"- now, you obviously assume that everybody would behave like you do ... but apart from this projection - do you have any evidence for this claim?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackPeter View Post
    Interesting statement - just more hot air from you or would you have any evidence to support your both claims?

    1) "Prison population consists of Labour demographic supporters" - so you say, there are no supporters of ACT, National, the Green party, NZF, the funny bishop, Advantage (or however the idiots are called) in prison? You are saying that the NZ justice system is only incarcerating Labour supporters? Do you have any evidence for this outrageous claim?

    2) "That's the only reason - votes"- now, you obviously assume that everybody would behave like you do ... but apart from this projection - do you have any evidence for this claim?
    Evidence?

    Go through the last 5 years of Ardern in power and you have all the evidence you will ever need.

    None so blind as those with eyes but do not see.

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