Labour govt 2020-23

[jonu]

I note that sometimes you accept academics as neutral parties, but I suspect that is only when they agree with you.

As the cap fits davflaws. What's your opinion? Has Ardern and the Cabinet been devious and deceitful in referring the matter to the Business Committee? Given that the Business Committee isn't in the business of constitutional matters I think the answer is straight forward. Ardern is gagging on the dead rat stuck in her craw. She probably should have used those chompers and dealt with it in an honourable manner.

[westerly]

First, sign the petition.

Second, make sure the media, especially TV3, plays the story on prime time.

I have done both above.

Don’t get mad, get going.

This government prefers beneficiaries who breed like rabbits and feed off the state rather than hard working, law abiding and self motivated individuals who want to get ahead in life through their own efforts.

On the face of it they deserve to stay and have 42 days to present a case to a tribunal.
However they came on an entrepreneure visa to establish an export company not open a restaurant.
Immigration is only doing their job.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kapiti-ne...RHNZ63DJOMI62A

westerly

[Baa_Baa]

On the face of it they deserve to stay and have 42 days to present a case to a tribunal.
However they came on an entrepreneure visa to establish an export company not open a restaurant.
Immigration is only doing their job.
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/kapiti-ne...RHNZ63DJOMI62A

westerly

Ministry of Immigration are tone-deaf. Nice that you acknowledge that they deserve to stay though. As of now, almost 20,000 people agree with you and the Change.org petition has only just started. a petition

Defending Immigration is also tone-deaf though. These people whom many around the Kapiti Coast know personally, are lovely, hard working family, admired by the community and have built well patronised businesses. They have contributed much to NZ and their community. They deserve to stay and be granted residency and citizenship.

To kick them out of NZ on a technicality is just absurd. Just another example of how truly screwed up NZ government has become, with distorted and warped policy implementations by the agencies, driven by idealistic short sighted policy of the Government.

Imagine for moment, what would you do if the government said you had to leave in 42 days, when you have a massive investment in a number of businesses? What would you do? Walk away and lose everything? Or fight for your rights?

sign the a petition show your support.

[Panda-NZ-]

Too many softies on this issue.

We're a nation of laws which must be respected and upheld.

[Balance]

Too many softies on this issue.

We're a nation of laws which must be respected and upheld.

Great you finally woken up to how soft Ardern & her clueless mob are soft on crime.

Well done.

[Balance]

Remember how Ardern & Little promised a new era for mental health care in NZ?

https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/...alth-seriously

Well, they threw $1.9 billion at it and as usual, they have squandered the money on bureaucracy & confusion :

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...t-by-thousands

"Te Hiringa Mahara/The Mental Health and Wellbeing Commission has just released its latest stocktake of the programme which showed that despite considerable progress in the year to June, fewer people than hoped had got help.

Some 114,000 people were seen in the year ended June, around 36,000 people short of the target."

[Getty]

One side effect of Dr Sharma forcing a by election, is increasing focus on the dangers faced by small store owners, and resultant political responses.

Some changes to Police vehicle pursuits are due.

Police publicly restate that small shop owners should not arm themselves against attack.

But alas, not one word along the lines of 'Thugs, do not rob and attack shop owners, or you will face the consequences!'

Instead, on TV news a Police spokesperson saying that some of the people committing these offences cannot afford shoes.

How is an Indian dairy owner going to feel about that, as if it's his families fault, and just grin and bear attack as it happens.

It appears the State message to offenders is; bash someone, and we will start making excuses for you.

All this would be bad enough in the wild west.
But in a country of social welfare, it's a total disgrace!

[nztx]

Too many softies on this issue.

We're a nation of laws which must be respected and upheld.

Oh - been watching too many new midnight laws shuffled in
under the hours of darkness while few are awake now ?

What were the Lawmakers in the dark hours scared of ?

being seen to not be as transparent and fair as they had earlier claimed ?

[Blue Skies]

One side effect of Dr Sharma forcing a by election, is increasing focus on the dangers faced by small store owners, and political responses.

Some changes to Police vehicle pursuits are due.

Police publicly restate that small shop owners should not arm themselves against attack.

But alas, not one word along the lines of 'Thugs, do not rob and attack shop owners, or you will face the consequences!'

Instead, on TV news a Police spokesperson saying that some of the people committing these offences cannot afford shoes.

How is an Indian dairy owner going to feel about that, as if it's his families fault, and just grin and bear attack as it happens.

All this would be bad enough in the wild west.
But in a country of social welfare, it's a total disgrace!

Our sentencing laws allow judges to impose sentences of 14 years for aggravated robbery, or 10 years for non aggravated robbery, & Life imprisonment for murder.
Are they not enough, too soft on crime ?

Criminals do face consequences, the 3 men in the Sandringham aggravated robbery & murder are in custody & will appear before the Courts.

Would you prefer public floggings or the police deal to the criminals themselves, maybe like the Russian State police or Iranian, Chinese etc?
Seriously what's your solution?

[Getty]

I intend to refrain from answering until others express their views, if they have any.