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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    You're about as evasive as Ardern. Did she lie? If not, how do you explain the conflicting information from herself and Mahuta? Should she and Mahuta resign?
    Did she lie - No.
    Should Mahuta be dropped from 3 waters - yes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    I found this article on youth crime good, it is nice when the media try to educate and provide perspective rather than hyping up a story.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/the...s-actually-say

    In summary
    Youth crime has increased recently, but according to the best data we have, the overall trend is still a drop-off since 2014.

    It seems silly that police always get blamed when some young sh*t bag does a runner in a car. You always get the parents crying and saying how great their kid was.

    Also sad to see cops being prosecuted for putting the boot in. Easy for the bleeding hearts to get all sad or outraged when they are not dealing with these d*ckheads all day.
    Many people here and the general public have no idea of the real stats and are being hyped by National and Act to believe that crime is totally out of control - it isn't.
    Most won't read or believe an article like this - they don't want to know the facts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Did she lie - No.
    Should Mahuta be dropped from 3 waters - yes.
    So you're saying her and other senior Ministers didn't read this very important legislation she is driving through Parliament without proper scrutiny and simply didn't know what they were voting for ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Did she lie - No.
    Should Mahuta be dropped from 3 waters - yes.
    Thanks for the direct response.
    How do you ascertain Ardern didn't lie? All the evidence we have suggests she did. Why has she been so evasive and thrown in that the normal expectation for entrenchment would be 75%....a red herring.
    Mahuta has just shown what a reprehensible human being she is, now throwing junior MPs under the bus in an effort to try and save her own hide.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...G5EFYUWITGZLE/

    Mahuta and 5 waters should not only be dropped. Mahuta should be sacked and resign from parliament.

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    duplicate duplicate
    Last edited by jonu; 06-12-2022 at 05:53 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Thanks for the direct response.
    How do you ascertain Ardern didn't lie? All the evidence we have suggests she did. Why has she been so evasive and thrown in that the normal expectation for entrenchment would be 75%....a red herring.
    Mahuta has just shown what a reprehensible human being she is, now throwing junior MPs under the bus in an effort to try and save her own hide.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...G5EFYUWITGZLE/

    Mahuta and 5 waters should not only be dropped. Mahuta should be sacked and resign from parliament.
    Poor old Mahooter
    Labour should boot 'er

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Thanks for the direct response.
    How do you ascertain Ardern didn't lie? All the evidence we have suggests she did. Why has she been so evasive and thrown in that the normal expectation for entrenchment would be 75%....a red herring.
    Mahuta has just shown what a reprehensible human being she is, now throwing junior MPs under the bus in an effort to try and save her own hide.

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...G5EFYUWITGZLE/

    Mahuta and 5 waters should not only be dropped. Mahuta should be sacked and resign from parliament.
    Deception, lies, passing the buck, spin, BS and non accountability - from the self proclaimed 'most transparent government ever.'

    Either Ardern lied or she did not do basic due diligence before voting on the 60% threshold - either way, she is not fit to lead NZ.


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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Poor old Mahooter
    Labour should boot 'er
    Poor old Mahoota, labour should boot'er.
    Bad boy Willy, He thinks we're all silly.
    Not to mention the Prime Minister, who couldn't be more sinister.
    Last edited by ynot; 06-12-2022 at 07:41 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    Poor old Mahoota, labour should boot'er.
    Bad boy Willy, He thinks we're all silly.
    Jacinda and the rest,
    None of them pass the test
    Last edited by fungus pudding; 06-12-2022 at 08:00 PM.

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    [QUOTE=Balance;984960]Meanwhile, the repression of women in Iran goes on and on.

    Women beaten, jailed, raped and killed for not wearing the hijab.

    And it came to pass that the warnings to Ardern NOT to don the hijab (at every occasion she wanted publicity) have come to pass :

    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/irania...PVWPHJKVWR7Z4/

    "I felt admiration that a prominent leader and women in New Zealand showed compassion to the Muslim community, but I also felt that you are using one of the most visible symbols of oppression for Muslim women in many countries for solidarity, and it also broke my heart.

    "That is why I call on them to show their sisterhood and solidarity with us, who are being beaten up, imprisoned and punished for fighting against compulsory hijab as well." [quote]

    Boring repetition.

    westerly
    Last edited by westerly; 06-12-2022 at 10:52 PM.

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