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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    It is an old saying that in politics, governments become unbearably arrogant in their term term.

    This one is doing the arrogance thing in the beginning of the second term.
    What is a 'term term'?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    What is a 'term term'?
    Third term.

    Thx for pointing out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Third term.

    Thx for pointing out.
    How is it that I've never heard it said that governments become unbearably arrogant in their third term, if it's 'an old saying'? Am I too young? My observations suggest that arrogance kicks in well and truely in the second term - and destroys them in the third. Not always of course, but often enough and both major parties have suffered from it.

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    Oh Dear....Cindy's lot have been exposed again. all huff and puff and bugger all delivery.

    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...ucture-package

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    How is it that I've never heard it said that governments become unbearably arrogant in their third term, if it's 'an old saying'? Am I too young? My observations suggest that arrogance kicks in well and truely in the second term - and destroys them in the third. Not always of course, but often enough and both major parties have suffered from it.
    Plenty of references if you look
    https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/pol...erm-government

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    Quote Originally Posted by stoploss View Post
    An opinion piece from a year ago - does it stack up now, one year on?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    An opinion piece from a year ago - does it stack up now, one year on?
    The question is, 'is the govt. holding up in popularity'? I'd say it definitely is, mainly because of Arden's charisma, coupled with Collins' lack of any sort of appeal at all. They'll sleepwalk into a third term which is a sad state of affairs for NZ.
    The majority of Labour's ministers are without any talent at all - a bunch of complete no-hopers. National are only a small degree better, but without a winning leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    The majority of Labour's ministers are without any talent at all - a bunch of complete no-hopers. National are only a small degree better, but without a winning leader.
    Audrey Young rates the Ministers - premium article if you can read it
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/audrey...7KIIQ3REWBPW4/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Audrey Young rates the Ministers - premium article if you can read it
    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/audrey...7KIIQ3REWBPW4/
    Can't access - not a subsciber.
    But who got the brownie points?
    Last edited by fungus pudding; 29-04-2021 at 11:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    Can't access - not a subsciber.
    But who got the brownie points?
    Ardern gets 8/10
    Robertson 9/10, as does Little and Wood
    Hipkins gets 8/10 as does Nash, Mahuta,
    O'Conner gets a low of 4/10
    Quite a few 7/10

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