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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Read the Treaty of Waitangi, Maori version, and see what the actual Maori name for New Zealand is. It is NOT Aotearoa, but Nu Tirani. Aotearoa only applied to part of the North Island, and not the whole country.
    Those Dutch cartographers were the first to give one name to this archipelago - Nova Zeelandia - so I see we should stick to that and ignore the subsequent anglicized version of it. My vote goes to Nova Zeelandia although for some inhabitants of the islands it did indeed usher in a New Tyranny.

    I think Zealandia should be retired from the coat of arms. She is too much of a cultural cringe to Britannia? The warrior should be replaced by an IT consultant and Zealandia by a realtor.

    Fellow Commonwealth province - Nova Scotia - kept its Latin name.
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    one word M@ggot !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    Those Dutch cartographers were the first to give one name to this archipelago - Nova Zeelandia - so I see we should stick to that and ignore the subsequent anglicized version of it. My vote goes to Nova Zeelandia although for some inhabitants of the islands it did indeed usher in a New Tyranny.

    Fellow Commonwealth province - Nova Scotia - kept its Latin name.
    New Zealand is well established as the country's name. What have Ceylon, Burma, Bombay etc, acheived by changing names - other than confusion?

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    New Zealand is well established as the country's name. What have Ceylon, Burma, Bombay etc, acheived by changing names - other than confusion?
    I am not confused by any of their current names. In fact it is less confusing, as I know if an old name is used it is easier to place it into context - similarly with Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul. Name changes are part of historical evolution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackie View Post
    oh damn it, i have missed homosexual week again.
    what a bummer
    What a wonderful post.?.!.lol.

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    Quote Originally Posted by percy View Post
    What a wonderful post.?.!.lol.
    I could be worse, in the US homosexual week has become pride month.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jantar View Post
    Read the Treaty of Waitangi, Maori version, and see what the actual Maori name for New Zealand is. It is NOT Aotearoa, but Nu Tirani. Aotearoa only applied to part of the North Island, and not the whole country.
    Thanks for that, shame i love Aotearoa. Nu Tirani then .Maybe New Zealand in smaller letters under it for a few years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    I am not confused by any of their current names. In fact it is less confusing, as I know if an old name is used it is easier to place it into context - similarly with Byzantium/Constantinople/Istanbul. Name changes are part of historical evolution.
    oops - error
    Last edited by fungus pudding; 21-06-2021 at 03:28 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by fungus pudding View Post
    I agree with Sir Bob that a referendum should be held. At least JK held two of them, no less, on his pet project of changing the flag. I am sure they could find the money for the process of voting on and then changing the name.

    Short name Options:
    Aotearoa New Zealand
    Aotearoa
    New Zealand
    Nu Tireni
    Nova Zeelandia

    Long name prefix:
    Kingdom of..
    Realm of..
    Regnum Novae Zeelandiae
    Dominion of..
    Commonwealth of…
    Rangatiratanga o..

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