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11-03-2024, 08:27 AM
#131
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"...The loss of our continuous finishing line at Napier has been particularly hard to find a solution for and is the next stage being considered..."
I read this as meaning that they are finding it hard to justify the cost of reinstating finishing in Napier vs the cost of sending dyed yarn off elsewhere (i.e. offshore) and bringing it back subject to variables such as shipping and forex and in either case being able to get that cost locked in at a level that allows them to be competitive enough to win back market share over the longer term. ROI no longer stacking up.
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11-03-2024, 08:51 AM
#132
Originally Posted by malreid
"...The loss of our continuous finishing line at Napier has been particularly hard to find a solution for and is the next stage being considered..."
I read this as meaning that they are finding it hard to justify the cost of reinstating finishing in Napier vs the cost of sending dyed yarn off elsewhere (i.e. offshore) and bringing it back subject to variables such as shipping and forex and in either case being able to get that cost locked in at a level that allows them to be competitive enough to win back market share over the longer term. ROI no longer stacking up.
Market share was lost through inability to supply enough to meet demand. Nothing to do with cost. It's a positive thing. They're planning to ramp up production rapidily and increase demand in Au, which might have large financial positives.
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11-03-2024, 09:41 AM
#133
Originally Posted by haewai
Market share was lost through inability to supply enough to meet demand. Nothing to do with cost. It's a positive thing. They're planning to ramp up production rapidily and increase demand in Au, which might have large financial positives.
Bremworth should have said we lost more market than we would have done if times were normal
Market share been going down for years …not a new thing
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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11-03-2024, 09:54 AM
#134
Originally Posted by winner69
Bremworth should have said we lost more market than we would have done if times were normal
Market share been going down for years …not a new thing
Yes to first point.
Which market- wool or synthetic carpets, or both? Because they're out of synthetics now, so past market share change is potentially not a relevant measure.
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11-03-2024, 10:14 AM
#135
Originally Posted by haewai
Yes to first point.
Which market- wool or synthetic carpets, or both? Because they're out of synthetics now, so past market share change is potentially not a relevant measure.
Wool as well as what they had in synthetics
Specifier market in particular not good
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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11-03-2024, 10:58 AM
#136
Originally Posted by winner69
Wool as well as what they had in synthetics
Specifier market in particular not good
Can you share your data? There's nothing in company reports or aggregated and reported elsewhere. I still think that there is risk in attributing a trend over abnormal and restructuring periods. [edit: guess not, just take your word I suppose]
Last edited by haewai; 11-03-2024 at 08:10 PM.
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12-03-2024, 08:23 AM
#137
Originally Posted by haewai
Can you share your data? There's nothing in company reports or aggregated and reported elsewhere. I still think that there is risk in attributing a trend over abnormal and restructuring periods. [edit: guess not, just take your word I suppose]
Industry insights I have access to……products specified by architects/designers on construction activity. Morbid fascination with Feltex, Cavalier and Bremworth over the years keeps me looking at floor covering segment trends
Trend over time for Bremworth not good ……and as you point out recent challenges won’t be helping.
I was surprised Bremworth actually admitted to losing share …like saying share gone for good ….or lost share and we won’t recapture it.
Last edited by winner69; 12-03-2024 at 10:13 AM.
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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12-03-2024, 11:21 AM
#138
Ok thanks. I'm still feeling positive given massive amount of cash, looming insurance payouts, near profitability despite headwinds, and plan to increase production to meet and exceed excess demand and then grow that demand. Guess I'm looking forwards, not back.
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13-03-2024, 11:59 AM
#139
Originally Posted by haewai
Ok thanks. I'm still feeling positive given massive amount of cash, looming insurance payouts, near profitability despite headwinds, and plan to increase production to meet and exceed excess demand and then grow that demand. Guess I'm looking forwards, not back.
Fair enough haewai.
I’ve had a morbid fascination with Cavalier/Bremworth since last century.
They did very well in the 2000’s and performance was re-elected in share price
But lost 10 years or so you’d have to say they’ve underperformed badly and that’s reflected in the share price as well
So looking back pretty miserable …and looking forward i see very little that’s going to change that will reverse that ‘trend’ …..ie performance wise going to continue to underperform
But wishing you good luck on getting your hands on the insurance money. Hope they don’t squander it but good that natural disasters might have benefited them
“ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”
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13-03-2024, 03:29 PM
#140
Looking back through stuff I have things have been going downhill since 2016. That’s when they sold the tile division and went through the Wool Holdings merger
The 2017 ASM was a pretty gloomy affair …. The CEO started his address -
To state the obvious it has been a tough year for Cavalier. There’s no shirking from the fact that we aren’t yet where we we’d like to be, or indeed where we said we’d be this time last year.
For that I apologise.
Been several tough years since …..again I ask what’s changed
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