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    Interesting article on BusinessDesk:

    Winton Land – The tortoise or the hare? | BusinessDesk

    Comparison to CDL, as the companies are similar sizes, total assets only about $30m difference. Winton alot more debt. Winton's market cap after IPO will be $1.15B vs $312m for CDL, but not compariable in terms of NTA per share.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sideshow Bob View Post
    Interesting article on BusinessDesk:

    Winton Land – The tortoise or the hare? | BusinessDesk

    Comparison to CDL, as the companies are similar sizes, total assets only about $30m difference. Winton alot more debt. Winton's market cap after IPO will be $1.15B vs $312m for CDL, but not compariable in terms of NTA per share.
    Yes that article makes it startlingly clear how overvalued the Winton IPO is. I much prefer CDL for residential exposure.

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    ASB Housing Update:

    REINZ Housing Data November 2021: Shifting through the gears

    November data allow more confidence in the fact the housing market has turned

    Housing supply is now, finally, rising to meet demand

    Supporting our forecasts for a sharp slowing in house price inflation next year

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    Auction clearance rates dropping like a stone :

    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...nths-surge-new

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    I do laugh at the Winton ads on TV. Not about selling sections, all about their IPO......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Auction clearance rates dropping like a stone :

    https://www.interest.co.nz/property/...nths-surge-new
    The party has to end somewhere, right. Have noticed quite a few homes in the last few weeks going from auction to price by negotiation and few that have dropped their asking price by about $100k.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sb9 View Post
    The party has to end somewhere, right. Have noticed quite a few homes in the last few weeks going from auction to price by negotiation and few that have dropped their asking price by about $100k.
    Was in the news over the weekend just how slow the auction market has become for existing homes.

    Article about an Auckland couple went to an auction to bid on a home in Te Atatu - they were very surprised to be the only bidder for the property and that's after the first 15 auctions ahead of their property passed. They got it for $925,000 which was well below what they expected to pay of >$1m.

    New homes are still going strong due to investors' interest apparently.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Was in the news over the weekend just how slow the auction market has become for existing homes.

    Article about an Auckland couple went to an auction to bid on a home in Te Atatu - they were very surprised to be the only bidder for the property and that's after the first 15 auctions ahead of their property passed. They got it for $925,000 which was well below what they expected to pay of >$1m.

    New homes are still going strong due to investors' interest apparently.
    ANZ had this chart re auction clearing rates and Akl house prices .... under the heading fasten your seatbelts
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    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    ANZ had this chart re auction clearing rates and Akl house prices .... under the heading fasten your seatbelts
    Scary chart, W69.

    Wonton has called the top of the market, I think.

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    Auckland the bellweather for the country?

    Or Aucklanders trying to flee Auckland for the provinces.....

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