NVDA - Nvidia

[ValueNZ]

Just popping this gem into the Nvidia thread.

Great idea, if I can stop just one person buying into this company it will have been worth it

[Azz]

Let's see over time if Nvidia's share price performance beats a New Zealand retirement home operator.

[Azz]

A curse on you is surely coming soon, like who would suggest a SP that has had a 4-500% increase in a short while, and recently a 25% selloff, despite the pumping, would be in the sights of the short sellers? They must be morons.

You obviously don't get it that AI is the future, Nvidia also owns AI, they're the sole beneficiary of AI, and their earnings will outmatch any of the big five who've invested billions into AI, for 105 years at least, 105 PE is irrelevant as earnings will catch up and overtake PE (105 years for earnings to catch up with price).

What a great investment right now. Uh, yeah, ok, listening not listening. Short it? What moron would suggest that?

This gem deserves to live here too.

[Baa_Baa]

This gem deserves to live here too.

Hey Azz, happy that you freeze frame, maybe one day you'll be able to come back and have a laugh. NVDA is already a $1T market cap, that's pretty impressive, but it's gone from roughly $20B to $1+T in a few weeks, into the top 3 by market cap, so hardly surprising the market is taking profits.

Current price has lifted a bit so that's encouraging, and shorts have dropped off a bit as well. It's an insto's game though, so it pays as a minnow to be alert to the macro movements. Below are the insto's who are currently short NVDA, but not to be deceived, they are probably long as well as their short is likely to be a hedge against their longs that have come off the boil.

I would suggest to try to understand this for a better insight into what the market is thinking, it's the options market which provides a good look into which side of the equation the market is favouring as it tries to look into the future. It takes a bit to get your head around, but basically it's the weekly bets into the future on whether the stock price will go up or down. Much more reliable indicator of sentiment than a share price chart, or just buy and hold and hope for the best.

Anyway, here's the list of morons who are shorting NVDA right now, it makes one wonder why they would:
Which institutional investors are shorting NVIDIA?
As of the most recent reporting period, the following institutional investors, funds, and major shareholders have reported short positions of NVIDIA: Chapin Davis Inc., Wolverine Trading LLC, Wells Fargo & Company MN, Walleye Capital LLC, Walleye Trading LLC, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., DRW Securities LLC, Point72 Middle East FZE, Readystate Asset Management LP, Royal Bank of Canada, Summit Partners Public Asset Management LLC, Hudson Bay Capital Management LP, Ionic Capital Management LLC, Beacon Pointe Advisors LLC, Caas Capital Management LP, Citadel Advisors LLC, CMT Capital Markets Trading GmbH, Capula Management Ltd, Whitebox Advisors LLC, Tudor Investment Corp Et Al, Two Sigma Securities LLC, Schonfeld Strategic Advisors LLC, Eisler Capital US LLC, Marshall Wace LLP, Garda Capital Partners LP, Jefferies Financial Group Inc., Capital Fund Management S.A., Parallax Volatility Advisers L.P., Chanos & Co LP, Alphadyne Asset Management LP, DRH Investments Inc., Lombard Odier Asset Management USA Corp, PEAK6 Investments LLC, BlackRock Inc., Quinn Opportunity Partners LLC, Hsbc Holdings PLC, HAP Trading LLC, Twin Tree Management LP, Covestor Ltd, JPMorgan Chase & Co., PARK CIRCLE Co, ExodusPoint Capital Management LP, Optiver Holding B.V., Hollencrest Capital Management, Shelton Capital Management, WS Management Lllp, Cetera Advisors LLC, Cetera Advisor Networks LLC, Mint Tower Capital Management B.V., Citigroup Inc., Saltoro Capital LP, BNP Paribas Arbitrage SNC, Lido Advisors LLC, Coastal Investment Advisors Inc., Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc., XR Securities LLC, Monaco Asset Management SAM, Wolverine Asset Management LLC, Obermeyer Wood Investment Counsel Lllp, JGP Global Gestao de Recursos Ltda., Savant Capital LLC, Mission Wealth Management LP, Simplex Trading LLC, Maven Securities LTD, CTC LLC, Bank of Nova Scotia, Goldstream Capital Management Ltd, Steel Peak Wealth Management LLC, MAI Capital Management, Otter Creek Advisors LLC, Bank of Montreal Can, Oak Family Advisors LLC, McAdam LLC, LPL Financial LLC, Dakota Wealth Management, SpiderRock Advisors LLC, NEIRG Wealth Management LLC, Credit Agricole S A, CenterStar Asset Management LLC, Portman Square Capital LLP, Raymond James Financial Services Advisors Inc., Altshuler Shaham Ltd, Creative Planning, Austin Private Wealth LLC, Veracity Capital LLC, Hiddenite Capital Partners LP, Cutler Group LLC CA, Cadent Capital Advisors LLC, Capstone Triton Financial Group LLC, IMC Chicago LLC, AdvisorNet Financial Inc, and SG Americas Securities LLC. These positions are disclosed in Form 13F filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

[Azz]

Hey Azz, happy that you freeze frame, maybe one day you'll be able to come back and have a laugh. NVDA is already a $1T market cap, that's pretty impressive, but it's gone from roughly $20B to $1+T in a few weeks, into the top 3 by market cap, so hardly surprising the market is taking profits.

Current price has lifted a bit so that's encouraging, and shorts have dropped off a bit as well. It's an insto's game though, so it pays as a minnow to be alert to the macro movements. Below are the insto's who are currently short NVDA, but not to be deceived, they are probably long as well as their short is likely to be a hedge against their longs that have come off the boil.

I would suggest to try to understand this for a better insight into what the market is thinking, it's the options market which provides a good look into which side of the equation the market is favouring as it tries to look into the future. It takes a bit to get your head around, but basically it's the weekly bets into the future on whether the stock price will go up or down. Much more reliable indicator of sentiment than a share price chart, or just buy and hold and hope for the best.

Anyway, here's the list of morons who are shorting NVDA right now, it makes one wonder why they would:
Which institutional investors are shorting NVIDIA?
As of the most recent reporting period, the following institutional investors, funds, and major shareholders have reported short positions of NVIDIA: Chapin Davis Inc., Wolverine Trading LLC, Wells Fargo & Company MN, Walleye Capital LLC, Walleye Trading LLC, Goldman Sachs Group Inc., DRW Securities LLC, Point72 Middle East FZE, Readystate Asset Management LP, Royal Bank of Canada, Summit Partners Public Asset Management LLC, Hudson Bay Capital Management LP, Ionic Capital Management LLC, Beacon Pointe Advisors LLC, Caas Capital Management LP, Citadel Advisors LLC, CMT Capital Markets Trading GmbH, Capula Management Ltd, Whitebox Advisors LLC, Tudor Investment Corp Et Al, Two Sigma Securities LLC, Schonfeld Strategic Advisors LLC, Eisler Capital US LLC, Marshall Wace LLP, Garda Capital Partners LP, Jefferies Financial Group Inc., Capital Fund Management S.A., Parallax Volatility Advisers L.P., Chanos & Co LP, Alphadyne Asset Management LP, DRH Investments Inc., Lombard Odier Asset Management USA Corp, PEAK6 Investments LLC, BlackRock Inc., Quinn Opportunity Partners LLC, Hsbc Holdings PLC, HAP Trading LLC, Twin Tree Management LP, Covestor Ltd, JPMorgan Chase & Co., PARK CIRCLE Co, ExodusPoint Capital Management LP, Optiver Holding B.V., Hollencrest Capital Management, Shelton Capital Management, WS Management Lllp, Cetera Advisors LLC, Cetera Advisor Networks LLC, Mint Tower Capital Management B.V., Citigroup Inc., Saltoro Capital LP, BNP Paribas Arbitrage SNC, Lido Advisors LLC, Coastal Investment Advisors Inc., Sumitomo Mitsui Financial Group Inc., XR Securities LLC, Monaco Asset Management SAM, Wolverine Asset Management LLC, Obermeyer Wood Investment Counsel Lllp, JGP Global Gestao de Recursos Ltda., Savant Capital LLC, Mission Wealth Management LP, Simplex Trading LLC, Maven Securities LTD, CTC LLC, Bank of Nova Scotia, Goldstream Capital Management Ltd, Steel Peak Wealth Management LLC, MAI Capital Management, Otter Creek Advisors LLC, Bank of Montreal Can, Oak Family Advisors LLC, McAdam LLC, LPL Financial LLC, Dakota Wealth Management, SpiderRock Advisors LLC, NEIRG Wealth Management LLC, Credit Agricole S A, CenterStar Asset Management LLC, Portman Square Capital LLP, Raymond James Financial Services Advisors Inc., Altshuler Shaham Ltd, Creative Planning, Austin Private Wealth LLC, Veracity Capital LLC, Hiddenite Capital Partners LP, Cutler Group LLC CA, Cadent Capital Advisors LLC, Capstone Triton Financial Group LLC, IMC Chicago LLC, AdvisorNet Financial Inc, and SG Americas Securities LLC. These positions are disclosed in Form 13F filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

The main laughable thing about your desire to talk about shorting Nvidia (apart from you obviously not shorting it yourself aka "being chicken"), is that you have predicted the future after it's happened! The price went down. And now you're talking about it after it happened! Congratulations!

I would suggest that you try to understand this for better insight: The more idiot shorts the better - they will have to scramble to find Nvidia shares to buy so as to cover when the squeeze gets put on, and believe me it will get put on, and soon.

[Azz]

Nvidia's Q3 earnings date is confirmed for Tuesday November 21, after market.

[t.rexjr]

Short after the pump. Your clients pay the price and you make the money.

[Azz]

[Putting this from another thread into the Nvidia thread]

You would have to be a real moron to short NVDA or even to be bearish in any way on this company.

Being a chip manufacturer, margins will expand to at least double where they are today and they will be able to grow revenue easily at 20% a year for the next decade, and they won't require much capital to do so. Nor will they come under attack from anyone or anywhere as they are the only company that can do AI, nobody else even knows what it is. This is NOT a boom bust industry.

Take your current revenue of 30 billion and grow it at 20% for the next decade (lots of companies have done this before not that hard) and then while this is happening double your margins (very simple to do in this industry) and you end up in 2033 with revenue of 220 Billion and a 40% margin sees you with 88 billion net income, then of course after all this you will capitalise at 30 times those earnings for a company worth 2.6 trillion. This will give you a 9% return.

A 9% return for a company growing earnings at 20% a year for a decade and doubling margins and not spending any capital . Simple stuff folks...

Microsoft, Cisco, Intel, IBM, America Online, Oracle, Dell, Sun Micro systems, Qualcomm, Hewlett Packard.

Welcome back, SailorRob.

[Azz]

[Putting this from another thread into the Nvidia thread]

AZZ perhaps you'd like to help these folk with poor basic numerical literacy, and let us know your estimates for revenue and net margin in 2030 and how much capital will be required to obtain these numbers.

There are problems (good problems to have) with supply. The demand is so hot that they're actually sold out and a lot of work is being done to meet this demand. It actually makes quarterly reporting incredible because any product not shipped due to a supply issue in a quarter means when it's made it just hits the next quarter! I've never seen anything like it. There could be shares issued by the company, it's been talked about. But really there's so much cash coming in, a spend-up can be done just from that. And the fab plants in US they're (TSMC) trying to build are delayed because the US workforce is too stoned and useless and lazy, they can't find decent workers lol. 2030 is too far away to talk actual numbers; my instinct is that it will become the biggest company in the world.

[Azz]

the fab plants in US they're (TSMC) trying to build are delayed because the US workforce is too stoned and useless and lazy, they can't find decent workers lol.

The first fab is scheduled to be operational by 2024; the second, nearby, and set to make 3nm chips - the most advanced currently being produced - is scheduled to be operational by 2026 (both in Arizona). Skilled workers from Taiwan are currently in Arizona to help out the 12,000 US workers on-site building the first fab.