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Originally Posted by justakiwi
Well said!
Well said indeed!
Ram raids - up 400%
Children sleeping in cars and tents - up 300%
Houses built - 1,300 of 35,000 promised (less than 4%)
Net sum total of Ardern's promises summarized above.
Last edited by Balance; 29-08-2022 at 09:49 PM.
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Originally Posted by Blue Skies
How? Tell us National's specific policies to 'fix' all these things, or is this just another airy fairy Hallmark card ?
The estimated cost of fixing NZ's water infrastructure is $185 Billion, just to maintain critical services. Wouldn't you want that debt/cost spread over all taxpayers rather than just the ratepayers?
National reduced the Police budget & closed many community stations, including the terrible decision to close the Fort Street station in Downtown Auckland city.
Nursing problems can be solved by further raising their pay (more than Labour already has) but that means higher taxes.
National put a lid on the Health budget for 9 years, effectively meaning it went backwards all while hospitals were having to put off maintenance & repairs & the population grew by another million or so people.
Labour has given the Health budget the biggest increase in funding of any govt. We now have funding for Cancer drugs which were not previously funded under National.
If you get Cancer, you are a hell of a lot better off under this govt than you were under National & that's a fact.
Do you have any idea 161,000 homes have been built since Labour came to office, over 41,000 homes in the year to June 2022, under this Labour govt 20,000 more homes built in 5 years, than in 9 years under National.
It's been a seismic shift, by far the largest addition to housing stock going back to 1991
Kiwibank estimates we will have housing surplus in less than 12 months.
Sure there's problems, but since National lost all their decent MP's & just left with an inexperienced 1st term MP as leader & few who have had any ministerial experience, and no new policies, and half of the caucus seriously hate the other half, & people like Luxon, Simeon Brown & Chris Bishop are flirting with extremists like the Freedom Party which must make Hipango & a few others happy, & they are so unrepresentative of culturally diverse NZ & no one really knows what they stand for, etc etc they are not ready for government.
Great post , thank you!
National want to make the rich richer, cant change their spots. Divide and Conquer.
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Garbage as usual from BS.
Complete and utter hogwash from the indoctrinated Ardern brainwashed brigade.
Originally Posted by Blue Skies
How? Tell us National's specific policies to 'fix' all these things, or is this just another airy fairy Hallmark card ?
The estimated cost of fixing NZ's water infrastructure is $185 Billion, just to maintain critical services. Wouldn't you want that debt/cost spread over all taxpayers rather than just the ratepayers?
National reduced the Police budget & closed many community stations, including the terrible decision to close the Fort Street station in Downtown Auckland city.
Nursing problems can be solved by further raising their pay (more than Labour already has) but that means higher taxes.
National put a lid on the Health budget for 9 years, effectively meaning it went backwards all while hospitals were having to put off maintenance & repairs & the population grew by another million or so people.
Labour has given the Health budget the biggest increase in funding of any govt. We now have funding for Cancer drugs which were not previously funded under National.
If you get Cancer, you are a hell of a lot better off under this govt than you were under National & that's a fact.
Do you have any idea 161,000 homes have been built since Labour came to office, over 41,000 homes in the year to June 2022, under this Labour govt 20,000 more homes built in 5 years, than in 9 years under National.
It's been a seismic shift, by far the largest addition to housing stock going back to 1991
Kiwibank estimates we will have housing surplus in less than 12 months.
Sure there's problems, but since National lost all their decent MP's & just left with an inexperienced 1st term MP as leader & few who have had any ministerial experience, and no new policies, and half of the caucus seriously hate the other half, & people like Luxon, Simeon Brown & Chris Bishop are flirting with extremists like the Freedom Party which must make Hipango & a few others happy, & they are so unrepresentative of culturally diverse NZ & no one really knows what they stand for, etc etc they are not ready for government.
Garbage as usual from BS.
Last edited by Balance; 29-08-2022 at 11:05 PM.
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Originally Posted by Joshuatree
Great post , thank you!
National want to make the rich richer, cant change their spots. Divide and Conquer.
What total crap. Is that all you can come up with? That is about as accurate as saying Labour is for the workers.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Garbage as usual from BS.
Complete and utter hogwash from the indoctrinated Ardern brainwashed brigade.
Changing the colour of govt from red to blue is not a plan.
Except that's what they're selling by not talking about a single policy except how bad everything is (its not).
Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 30-08-2022 at 03:32 AM.
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Originally Posted by Blue Skies
Sure there's problems, but since National lost all their decent MP's & just left with an inexperienced 1st term MP as leader & few who have had any ministerial experience, and no new policies, and half of the caucus seriously hate the other half, & no one really knows what they stand for, etc etc they are not ready for government.
Almost a carbon copy of what news sources were saying about Labour before election 5 years ago,
The difference was Labour had no decent MP;s to lose.
Jacinda was thrown into leadership in the run up to the election, when she didn't even want the job.
On election night results did not expect to be government.
Later, when National would not compromise on their principles, Winston sprung a surprise that Jacinda herself did not know, until the public announcement was made on TV, that Labour would be his coalition partner.
So in comes a ragtag group of supposed diversity.
Can anyone name any good ministers from that group, and what they have achieved, that otherwise would not have happened anyway?
Apart from anything else, Dr Sharma has shown that diversity is not necessarily a good fit with Labour, just shut up and hide in the corner, and we will wheel you out to stand behind the PM & nod when she's on TV talking about something that may affect the Asian community.
Charades anyone?
Now's good!
Last edited by Getty; 30-08-2022 at 09:20 AM.
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Originally Posted by Panda-NZ-
Changing the colour of govt from red to blue is not a plan.
Except that's what they're selling by not talking about a single policy except how bad everything is (its not).
Correct under National the rich will get richer everyone else poorer financially and culturally. Never a more divided nation there will be.
Now wait for the wrong white selfish usual suspects on here to defend their entrenched me,me,me positions.......
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Originally Posted by Joshuatree
Great post , thank you!
National want to make the rich richer, cant change their spots. Divide and Conquer.
Josh..., so tell me how much do you have to earn to be called rich, even ma$$ot Ducky couldnt give an answer to that question so can you ?
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Originally Posted by Getty
Almost a carbon copy of what news sources were saying about Labour before election 5 years ago,
The difference was Labour had no decent MP;s to lose.
Jacinda was thrown into leadership in the run up to the election, when she didn't even want the job.
On election night results did not expect to be government.
Later, when National would not compromise on their principles, Winston sprung a surprise that Jacinda herself did not know, until the public announcement was made on TV, that Labour would be his coalition partner.
So in comes a ragtag group of supposed diversity.
Can anyone name any good ministers from that group, and what they have achieved, that otherwise would not have happened anyway?
Apart from anything else, Dr Sharma has shown that diversity is not necessarily a good fit with Labour, just shut up and hide in the corner, and we will wheel you out to stand behind the PM & nod when she's on TV talking about something that may affect the Asian community.
Charades anyone?
Now's good!
Post 2017 election it was all on and Labour would have been well prepared for government after all they were in coalition talks for some weeks with NZ First - that’s MMP for you National seem to forget that sometimes.
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Originally Posted by tim23
Post 2017 election it was all on and Labour would have been well prepared for government after all they were in coalition talks for some weeks with NZ First - that’s MMP for you National seem to forget that sometimes.
They come in half asleep, and some of them still haven't woken up, but they are woke.
BTW I'm a swinging voter.
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