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Originally Posted by Getty
Thanks for that update.
The new force in politics then is Yummies, young upwardly mobile Maoris.
Good on them for splitting their votes to maximise their seats between Labour & TMP. What National had done of course with ACT in Epsom.
In this election, it made bigger all difference to the end result (losers are losers, whether by 1 seat or 20 seats) but if they use their seats wisely, they can be very influential in directing the progress of NZ into a modern, prosperous and peaceful country.
The other group as a force to watch as well is the Asian migrant votes which was very influential this election in shifting the Auckland landscape towards the right.
By their nature, Asian migrants are hard working, law abiding, family orientated and find racial & social divisive politics repugnant. Quite a revelation for many of them to migrate here and find that their hard work and taxes are going into breeding beneficiaries, criminals and parasites by Labour. Very fertile ground of votes for National & ACT as their population grow.
Last edited by Balance; 04-11-2023 at 08:54 AM.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Good on them for splitting their votes to maximise their seats between Labour & TMP. What National had done of course with ACT in Epsom.
In this election, it made bigger all difference to the end result (losers are losers, whether by 1 seat or 20 seats) but if they use their seats wisely, they can be very influential in directing the progress of NZ into a modern, prosperous and peaceful country.
The other group as a force to watch as well is the Asian migrant votes which was very influential this election in shifting the Auckland landscape towards the right.
By their nature, Asian migrants are hard working, law abiding, family orientated and find racial & social divisive politics repugnant. Quite a revelation for many of them to migrate here and find that their hard work and taxes are going into breeding beneficiaries, criminals and parasites by Labour. Very fertile ground of votes for National & ACT as their population grow.
Maybe, but my read is that the Yummies and the Raisins (recent asians) will cancel each other out.
You may say a Balance.
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Originally Posted by Getty
Maybe, but my read is that the Yummies and the Raisins (recent asians) will cancel each other out.
You may say a Balance.
Agreed at this stage.
However, the number of Asians coming into NZ is overwhelming the increase in Maori population growth. Matter of time as they get politically more active to make their presence really felt.
Meanwhile, white middle class NZers are leaving in droves to Australia - that's where National/ACT are losing votes by attrition.
Sobering when our local kindy recently lost all 3 new graduate teachers (all young female pakeha) & their partners to Australia - to be replaced by Asian caregivers.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Agreed at this stage.
However, the number of Asians coming into NZ is overwhelming the increase in Maori population growth. Matter of time as they get politically more active to make their presence really felt.
Meanwhile, white middle class NZers are leaving in droves to Australia - that's where National/ACT are losing votes by attrition.
Sobering when our local kindy recently lost all 3 new graduate teachers (all young female pakeha) & their partners to Australia - to be replaced by Asian caregivers.
Yes, and just as sobering is that many of those Asian immigrants see NZ as a gateway to enter Australia.
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Originally Posted by Getty
Yes, and just as sobering is that many of those Asian immigrants see NZ as a gateway to enter Australia.
Once they serve their required period to get PR and then citizenship, they are as free as any NZ citizen to go to where they can have a better life.
I have no problem with that.
I have a problem with billions of dollars being paid to the beneficiaries, parasites, criminals and losers bred by Labour over the last 6 years who can work but prefer to receive handouts and stay in NZ. Why don't they pxssed off to Australia?
Last edited by Balance; 04-11-2023 at 12:03 PM.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Once they serve their required period to get PR and then citizenship, they are as free as any NZer to go to where they can have a better life.
I have no problem with that.
Yes it's all about PR for them.
These migrants should join NZers of every persuasion (teachers, nurses, workers) in asking for better conditions so they wouldn't have to move.
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Originally Posted by Balance
Once they serve their required period to get PR and then citizenship, they are as free as any NZer to go to where they can have a better life.
I have no problem with that.
In itself, nor do I.
But it does show that NZ is at risk of becoming a transit lounge, with even more offshore voters having a say in the outcomes of the lives of those still resident in NZ.
Hopefully we get a government that makes people want to stay in NZ.
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Originally Posted by Getty
In itself, nor do I.
But it does show that NZ is at risk of becoming a transit lounge, with even more offshore voters having a say in the outcomes of the lives of those still resident in NZ.
Hopefully we get a government that makes people want to stay in NZ.
That is the hope.
The reality is that NZ is now a divided society where race and politics are of greater consequence to a person's career prospect & ability to get ahead than their skill, qualification and ability.
Once a migrant becomes a citizen, they find themselves required to embrace woke and PC ideologies (based on race & political preferences) to access opportunities - why do they want o stay in NZ when Australia welcomes them with open arms and without such ideological garbage.
Case in point - a 30+ year old Filipino caregiver became a citizen two years ago and found his path to promotion hindered by his lack of proficiency about the Treaty, cultural safety and Te reo Maori. He migrated to Brisbane this year with his family - immediate promotion, big increase in pay and better conditions with no requirement to embrace woke & race based ideologies to get ahead. Need to only work hard and diligently to provide care as he is very good at. His wife is an ex-employee in the company I worked in.
Last edited by Balance; 04-11-2023 at 12:35 PM.
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Originally Posted by Balance
That is the hope.
The reality is that NZ is now a divided society where race and politics are of greater consequence to a person's career prospect & ability to get ahead than their skill, qualification and ability.
Once a migrant becomes a citizen, they find themselves required to embrace woke and PC ideologies (based on race & political preferences) to access opportunities - why do they want o stay in NZ when Australia welcomes them with open arms and without such ideological garbage.
Case in point - a 30+ year old Filipino caregiver became a citizen two years ago and found his path to promotion hindered by his lack of proficiency about the Treaty, cultural safety and Te reo Maori. He migrated to Brisbane this year with his family - immediate promotion, big increase in pay and better conditions with no requirement to embrace woke & race based ideologies to get ahead. Need to only work hard and diligently to provide care as he is very good at. His wife is an ex-employee in the company I worked in.
It's astonishing how NZ was able to be steered in that rotten direction in such a short time.
I think a lot of Kiwis are blissfully unaware of the idealogical change, until a family member tries to get a job or promotion, or they themselves need hospital treatment.
They did see Waka and Kainga signs, but thought that was someone else, they only know Winz.
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Originally Posted by Getty
It's astonishing how NZ was able to be steered in that rotten direction in such a short time.
I think a lot of Kiwis are blissfully unaware of the idealogical change, until a family member tries to get a job or promotion, or they themselves need hospital treatment.
They did see Waka and Kainga signs, but thought that was someone else, they only know Winz.
Almost everyone were cowed into silence or submission by the government & MSM - to question the ideological drift towards apartheid was to be called a racist and to risk being cancelled.
Similar to the practice of silencing dissenting voices in communist Russia, China and North Korea - anyone questioning the doctrine were arrested and jailed with many executed for good measure.
Ardern certainly lived up to her comrade/socialist bend with her attempts to silence dissenting voices to her racist & divisive policies.
How she must wish she could rule NZ like Stalin.
“4 legs good, 2 legs even better!” Animal Farm
Last edited by Balance; 04-11-2023 at 08:02 PM.
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