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    Anyone watched TVNZ's Q&A on Sunday?

    Swarbrick being interviewed by Jack Tame

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    she admitted she was told by representatives of the Jewish community of Kadimah School in her electorate back in 2019 that her pro-Palestinian chant of "From the River to the Sea ...." to be hateful, offensive and an incitement to violence against the Jews.

    Still she persisted to use that chant and when challenged by Jack Tame, she tried to excuse her hate leaden anti-Jewish tirades on context and unpacking (wtf is that) what she said!

    This is a woman(?) who campaigned for hate speech legislation but clearly, she believes hate speech does not apply to her hatred driven utterances and thoughts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Anyone watched TVNZ's Q&A on Sunday?

    Swarbrick being interviewed by Jack Tame

    where

    she admitted she was told by representatives of the Jewish community of Kadimah School in her electorate back in 2019 that her pro-Palestinian chant of "From the River to the Sea ...." to be hateful, offensive and an incitement to violence against the Jews.

    Still she persisted to use that chant and when challenged by Jack Tame, she tried to excuse her hate leaden anti-Jewish tirades on context and unpacking (wtf is that) what she said!

    This is a woman(?) who campaigned for hate speech legislation but clearly, she believes hate speech does not apply to her hatred driven utterances and thoughts.
    Fortunately Chloe is assisting in the destruction of the Green party. Sooner it happens the better. JS could see what lay ahead for this sorry lot and acted accordingly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Anyone watched TVNZ's Q&A on Sunday?

    Swarbrick being interviewed by Jack Tame

    where

    she admitted she was told by representatives of the Jewish community of Kadimah School in her electorate back in 2019 that her pro-Palestinian chant of "From the River to the Sea ...." to be hateful, offensive and an incitement to violence against the Jews.

    Still she persisted to use that chant and when challenged by Jack Tame, she tried to excuse her hate leaden anti-Jewish tirades on context and unpacking (wtf is that) what she said!

    This is a woman(?) who campaigned for hate speech legislation but clearly, she believes hate speech does not apply to her hatred driven utterances and thoughts.
    Yes I watched it and was shocked to hear her basically say that she and her ilk will decide what is the so called "hate speech" that Jacinda has devoted her life on. If they don't think it is, then it isn't. That even after her being asked to attend a meeting with the Jewish NZ community where she admitted she was told they find the term she later used, highly inflammatory and hateful. Disgusting behaviour.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Yes I watched it and was shocked to hear her basically say that she and her ilk will decide what is the so called "hate speech" that Jacinda has devoted her life on. If they don't think it is, then it isn't. That even after her being asked to attend a meeting with the Jewish NZ community where she admitted she was told they find the term she later used, highly inflammatory and hateful. Disgusting behaviour.
    Cindy and Chloe are made from the same ilk - communists in the image of Stalin. Only they can be right and only they decide what is wrong and what is right.

    How they would love to have Stalin’s power!

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    Tame: "....and people interpret it as calling for the genocide of the Jewish people"
    Swarbrick: "and thats an interpretation that we should interrogate wholesale"

    She also essentially said that she said it to enable confidence in other people around the country to say the same. If this isn't inciting hate and violence I don't know what is. She is dangerous

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Cindy and Chloe are made from the same ilk - communists in the image of Stalin. Only they can be right and only they decide what is wrong and what is right.

    How they would love to have Stalin’s power!


    Your posts are becoming more comical by the day.

    Everyone who isn't aligned with your increasingly narrow world views seems to be a communist these days & not just any old communist but like Stalin responsible for the deaths of 7 million people.

    Seriously??

    So much anger. Whats going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    Your posts are becoming more comical by the day.

    Everyone who isn't aligned with your increasingly narrow world views seems to be a communist these days & not just any old communist but like Stalin responsible for the deaths of 7 million people.

    Seriously??

    So much anger. Whats going on.
    You want to see anger, look no further than Chloe in one of her howling tirades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Anyone watched TVNZ's Q&A on Sunday?

    Swarbrick being interviewed by Jack Tame

    where

    she admitted she was told by representatives of the Jewish community of Kadimah School in her electorate back in 2019 that her pro-Palestinian chant of "From the River to the Sea ...." to be hateful, offensive and an incitement to violence against the Jews.

    Still she persisted to use that chant and when challenged by Jack Tame, she tried to excuse her hate leaden anti-Jewish tirades on context and unpacking (wtf is that) what she said!

    This is a woman(?) who campaigned for hate speech legislation but clearly, she believes hate speech does not apply to her hatred driven utterances and thoughts.



    It's not unsurprising though disappointing representatives of the Jewish School Kadimah would have told her the chant "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be Free" is offensive & an incitement to violence against Jews.
    But whats overlooked is the phrase means different things to pro Palestinian & pro Jewish, & neutral observers & what the word "Free" implies.

    To moderate pro Palestinian observers the phrase reflects the ongoing fact Palestinians have been denied the human right to live in equality, freedom & dignity like everybody else. They want to be Free from oppression, Free to the have the right to self determination, denied since the Jewish State was established on the territories which they lived.
    Palestinians live under an apartheid system created by Israel.

    While to some Jewish Israelis & others pro Israel, they interpret the phrase as a threat & meaning the elimination of Israel.
    Extremists on both sides intend it to mean the elimination of the other side, but thats not what it means to everyone.

    Now although I don't know Chloe, she doesn't strike me as a violent person or even unkind, so accusing her of "hate laden anti-Jewish tirades" & her "hatred driven utterances & thoughts" seems based on a complete misunderstanding.
    She has often stated she supports a Two State solution.

    However, throughout his entire political career, Netanyahu's has been vehemently opposed to any form of Palestinian State.
    That only leaves 2 options, either an apartheid system where Palestinians are denied human & political rights, tick,
    Or ethnic cleansing - expelling them from their territories which is what we're currently witnessing.



    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...an-really-mean
    Last edited by Blue Skies; 12-02-2024 at 04:21 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    It's not unsurprising though disappointing representatives of the Jewish School Kadimah would have told her the chant "From the River to the sea, Palestine will be Free" is offensive & an incitement to violence against Jews.
    But whats overlooked is the phrase means different things to pro Palestinian & pro Jewish, & neutral observers & what the word "Free" implies.

    To moderate pro Palestinian observers the phrase reflects the ongoing fact Palestinians have been denied the human right to live in equality, freedom & dignity like everybody else. They want to be Free from oppression, Free to the have the right to self determination, denied since the Jewish State was established on the territories which they lived.
    Palestinians live under an apartheid system created by Israel.

    While to some Jewish Israelis & others pro Israel, they interpret the phrase as a threat & meaning the elimination of Israel.
    Extremists on both sides intend it to mean the elimination of the other side, but thats not what it means to everyone.

    Now although I don't know Chloe, she doesn't strike me as a violent person or even unkind, so accusing her of "hate laden anti-Jewish tirades" & her "hatred driven utterances & thoughts" seems based on a complete misunderstanding.
    She has often stated she supports a Two State solution.

    However, throughout his entire political career, Netanyahu's has been vehemently opposed to any form of Palestinian State.
    That only leaves 2 options, either an apartheid system where Palestinians are denied human & political rights, tick,
    Or ethnic cleansing - expelling them from their territories which is what we're currently witnessing.



    https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/...an-really-mean
    For someone like Chloe, that even claims us calling all boys with the pronoun he or him is offensive, she could have easily shown respect to the Jewish Community that asked her not to use it, quietly and without going to the media with it. She chose to be confrontational on purpose. She is a provocative and divisive politician that will be liked by the Green membership and voted in overwhelmingly as one of the two Co-Leaders, both women. But I would not be surprised if that will be the start of a slow death for The Greens. She is unlikely to attract middle of the road voters with real environmental leanings.
    Last edited by iceman; 12-02-2024 at 05:13 PM.

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    A lot of unresolved issues in her life with poor Chloe - rapidly heading in the same direction as Golriz.

    Weird woman (?).

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