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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Baa_Baa, much was broken before 2017 it just took the pandemic to expose the issue of decades of neglect and under spending due to the acute circumstances associated with global lockdowns & the consequential inflation.

    You seem to have a very short memory.
    It was only at the end of 2020 Labour won a majority Government, the first in the history of MMP. How crushed were the right then?
    Multiple changes of leadership of the Nats.

    No mention of a once in a hundred year global pandemic in your post where basically the world was closed down, Kaikoura earthquake repairs, Gabrielle, other major horrendous events that Labour managed very well, particularly the CCH mass shooting.

    Labour also had to make up for a massive under spend by the previous NACT Government in areas such as health & education and not paying our teachers, nurses or police appropriately.

    Did Labour loose the plot & stop listening, particularlyin the 2nd phase of the pandemic? Yes
    Did Labour squander a great opportunity to establish long lasting change such as a fairer and more equitable tax system? Yes
    Did Labour waste a lot of money? Yes
    Did Labour push a Maori agenda they didn't campaign on? Yes

    The huge swing away from National and the right in general in 2020 & swing back in 2023 albeit a more fractured vote, displays how easily in NZ popularity is won & lost.

    A new leadership within Labour will evolve over time & watch this space, they will have a mantra of getting back to their roots & values.

    Your confidence that swings in the electorate are terminal is not credible. After all what was National polling under Bridges or Collins?
    For that to happen they would need credible candidates. Can you name them ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    For that to happen they would need credible candidates. Can you name them ?
    Labour are in need of new blood no doubt.
    Where was Luxon pre 2020? Where was Jacinda a year before 2017? Neither were on the radar to be the next PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Labour are in need of new blood no doubt.
    Where was Luxon pre 2020? Where was Jacinda a year before 2017? Neither were on the radar to be the next PM.
    After the destruction Jacinda inflicted on the country, and then promptly dissappeared, the electorate is going to be extreamly wary of another woke lefty bearing gifts. Labours damage is yet to be fully reconciled. Once the total damage is on the table for all to see I doubt they will see daylight again anytime soon.We will feel the depth of their incompetence for some time to come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    After the destruction Jacinda inflicted on the country, and then promptly dissappeared, the electorate is going to be extreamly wary of another woke lefty bearing gifts. Labours damage is yet to be fully reconciled. Once the total damage is on the table for all to see I doubt they will see daylight again anytime soon.We will feel the depth of their incompetence for some time to come.
    ynot, dont you believe that, there are idots born every day, never forget " the left is a lie ! "

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    Quote Originally Posted by ynot View Post
    After the destruction Jacinda inflicted on the country, and then promptly dissappeared, the electorate is going to be extreamly wary of another woke lefty bearing gifts. Labours damage is yet to be fully reconciled. Once the total damage is on the table for all to see I doubt they will see daylight again anytime soon.We will feel the depth of their incompetence for some time to come.
    I would not be so confident of that Ynot. The idiots will not be wary, they will be welcoming of another wokey with a stupid grin bearing gifts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I would not be so confident of that Ynot. The idiots will not be wary, they will be welcoming of another wokey with a stupid grin bearing gifts.
    Quote of the day :

    “Jacinda Ardern’s knack for making nonsense sound meaningful.”

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    Chloe Swarbrick - uncovered!

    Then : "When she first burst upon the political scene, as an independent candidate for the Auckland mayoralty in the 2016 local body elections, the clarity of her thought and expression was Swarbrick’s greatest asset. Here was a young woman who was capable of presenting her ideas forcefully, without prevarication, and then supporting them with a truly intimidating army of facts and figure."

    Now : "The politician who emerged from Tame’s interview with Swarbrick cannot replace the qualities the Greens are losing with Shaw. Her six years in Parliament appear to have diminished her faith in democracy as the most effective political system."

    Many have praised/condemned Jack Tame for identifying Swarbrick’s unflinching defence of the Palestinian cause as the most effective means of exposing her zealotry. But, to those who once saluted Swarbrick’s political promise, Tame’s uncompromising interview proved profoundly depressing.

    https://breakingviewsnz.blogspot.com...-her-soul.html

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    More on Swarbrick - as clueless & useless as Ardern but more dangerous if she ever gets real power.

    https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/02/15/she-...-to-slaughter/

    Chloe Swarbrick seek the leadership of the Green party: her avowed mission being to eliminate inequality. There are probably lots of stupid, ignorant poor people who think this may lead to their poverty being eliminated – such is the con game the left runs. But no. Chloe’s actual mission is to basically abolish capitalism.

    Her idea of “equality” is having everyone living as their ancestors did in the 16th century. As everyone is equally poor there is no inequality.

    Oh the sheep to the slaughter thinking Chloe in charge will lead to prosperity for the poor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    I would not be so confident of that Ynot. The idiots will not be wary, they will be welcoming of another wokey with a stupid grin bearing gifts.
    You are probably right. I am placing far too much intelect in the hands of fools. You have to take your hat of to the left for nurturing such a mob.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/green-...BFER62O3BYJIA/

    Green backlash: ‘Centrist’ Karl Tiefenbacher provisional winner of Wellington City Council byelection


    It’s a Green backlash in Wellington this afternoon as locals have voted in self-described centrist Karl Tiefenbacher in the city council byelection - replacing former Green councillor Tamatha Paul.

    That's a shame .. probably a warning being delivered to the rest of the Watermelons squatting on Public perches too

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