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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Amazing that Daytr can say that in a Left wing coalition the Greens most extreme policies won’t be adopted. Labour caved in to Winnie in 2017 with a massive slush fund for a regional spend-up at Shane Jones’ discretion, but we are expected to believe that a Labour dependent on the Greens and Te Pati Maori will not cave into them….so the radical Greens and Te Pati Maori will happily go into government and get virtually nothing in return(?) Really?

    Just about everything in the Greens and Te Pati Maori platforms are radical policies that don’t appeal to mainstream voters, and they are getting more extreme by the day. Yet apparently Labour will be able to tell them ‘no’ when it comes to adopting these policies, and will go and sit on the opposition benches if need be. That is not the Labour I know. Moreover, the Maori caucus within Labour would be more than happy to implement radical policies that pertain to maori, while the Robertson / Parker faction are itching to implement wealth taxes and a CGT.

    What all this means is that voters are expected to trust that one man - Chris Hipkins - will be able to deftly preside over the whole emerging circus, and contain his radical coalition partners and a disgruntled faction within his own cabinet and caucus.
    But will Hipkins even want to constrain any of these groups if he finds himself heading a government at the start of a fresh 3 year term? ‘Just trust him’, is that the message? Sure, trust him now when he wants your vote; after the election when he has power within his grasp all beats will be off.

    New Zealand is on a dangerous precipice going into this election, where the most radical government in this nations history could be elected and utterly destroy racial harmony and living standards within a short span of time.
    The hijacked Labour cause is likely to be the weakest Link, willing to prostitute itself for .. more of the same
    which on recent results will be very little achieved at huge cost, while the splinter factions continue playing their games

    How are ordinary Kiwi's faring under this regime purportedly for all, while this ludicrous defacto game for power
    control goes on under the leadership of a Puppet clown ?
    Last edited by nztx; 17-07-2023 at 04:03 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Amazing that Daytr can say that in a Left wing coalition the Greens most extreme policies won’t be adopted. Labour caved in to Winnie in 2017 with a massive slush fund for a regional spend-up at Shane Jones’ discretion, but we are expected to believe that a Labour dependent on the Greens and Te Pati Maori will not cave into them….so the radical Greens and Te Pati Maori will happily go into government and get virtually nothing in return(?) Really?

    Just about everything in the Greens and Te Pati Maori platforms are radical policies that don’t appeal to mainstream voters, and they are getting more extreme by the day. Yet apparently Labour will be able to tell them ‘no’ when it comes to adopting these policies, and will go and sit on the opposition benches if need be. That is not the Labour I know. Moreover, the Maori caucus within Labour would be more than happy to implement radical policies that pertain to maori, while the Robertson / Parker faction are itching to implement wealth taxes and a CGT.

    What all this means is that voters are expected to trust that one man - Chris Hipkins - will be able to deftly preside over the whole emerging circus, and contain his radical coalition partners and a disgruntled faction within his own cabinet and caucus.
    But will Hipkins even want to constrain any of these groups if he finds himself heading a government at the start of a fresh 3 year term? ‘Just trust him’, is that the message? Sure, trust him now when he wants your vote; after the election when he has power within his grasp all beats will be off.

    New Zealand is on a dangerous precipice going into this election, where the most radical government in this nations history could be elected and utterly destroy racial harmony and living standards within a short span of time.
    Yes and the Green's were left out of cabinet.
    The Green's aren't NZF.
    But what's good for the goose ....

    ACT if elected in a coalition will have 1/3rd of the votes on current polling, probably more as ACT is rising, whilst National is falling.
    Be scared, be very scared if ACT get a seat at the greedy table.
    Seymour will run political rings around Luxon.
    The child National raised has turned into a monster.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Who is paying ?

    Show us the Money
    Well all us TAXPAYERS ... the Greenies are just getting loonier by the month ...shows how much money is behind the radical Maori groups ... pumping plenty into the GREENS
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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Be scared, be very scared if ACT get a seat at the greedy table.
    Seymour will run political rings around Luxon.
    The child National raised has turned into a monster.
    What's actually wrong with Seymour?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    What's actually wrong with Seymour?
    Nothing wrong but he is very scary to the Labour wokesters like Daytr because Seymour is a Maori who articulates common sense policies for ALL NZers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JBmurc View Post
    Well all us TAXPAYERS ... the Greenies are just getting loonier by the month ...shows how much money is behind the radical Maori groups ... pumping plenty into the GREENS
    That’s one thing I hadn’t considered: the amount of political influence the $70 billion maori economy can buy.

    Green politics is a trojan horse for the extreme Left and the radical politics of Marama Davidson.
    Vote Green to purportedly ‘save the planet from climate change’ and you’ll instead get a re-opening of all ‘Te Tiriti’ grievances and we start the process all over again from scratch with a horribly divided country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    What's actually wrong with Seymour?
    Expect lots of knee-jerk stuff about ‘neoliberalism’.

    Seymour wants to get tough on crime. Labourites will tell you this is ‘very bad’ and in any case ‘won’t work’. Now it turns out that Chipkins wants to sing from the same song sheet, but Labourites won’t bat an eyelid at that about face.

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    From a Labour insider :

    “Internal polling is showing a loss of Maori votes due to Hipkins’ attempt to shut down the Maori noise in caucus leading to the October election.’

    The Maori Party & Greens are obviously taking the opportunity to try & increase their share of the Maori votes. And if the polls are any indication, succeeding.

    Labour under Hipkins looks like it is outflanked on both sides and heading for electoral disaster.

    Last edited by Balance; 18-07-2023 at 10:35 AM.

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    Can we get this guy back in Greens?

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    At least he stood for their namesake
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    Quote Originally Posted by Entrep View Post
    Can we get this guy back in Greens?

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    At least he stood for their namesake
    I think the genuine ‘save the planet’ people have been driven out. Now it’s wall to wall radicals and a misguided weirdo in a suit in James Shaw.

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