The Fourth Turning Is Here

[Azz]

Nope Rednecks are abundant in NZ as well.
The South Island Independence movement is full of them just as an example.
This site is full of them as well, those that don't follow science, those who support Trump etc.

I wish I could say our engagements have been entertaining but you are too one eyed for that to have eventuated.

"Follow the science" is a slogan based on lies. It's never actual science - like the masking nonsense, the social distancing nonsense, many other nonsenses, and not forgetting how the Pfizer covid vaccine was approved because it allegedly stopped individuals catching covid (as per their "scientific" trial presented to the FDA) and then in every country it's been rolled out in everybody catches covid.

[moka]

I think you’ll find that the secessionist movements are incubating in the Left Wing / Maoridom axis….just look at the frightening and divisive views of the likes of the Greens and Te Pati Maori.

Just look at the frightening and divisive views on Sharetrader. A lot of hatred expressed toward groups that are seen as Left (the Labour Govt) or Maori (beneficiaries, “criminals”.) In the US it was right wing groups who stormed the Capitol.

[Logen Ninefingers]

Just look at the frightening and divisive views on Sharetrader. A lot of hatred expressed toward groups that are seen as Left (the Labour Govt) or Maori (beneficiaries, “criminals”.) In the US it was right wing groups who stormed the Capitol.

I see the most hatred being expressed toward the Right (selfish, wealthy, ‘neoliberals’) and ‘Pakeha’ (colonists, racists). In Russia it was the Bolsheviks that enslaved millions.

[Azz]

In the US it was right wing groups who stormed the Capitol.

That was like a cup of tea and a biscuit compared to the hundreds of riots in the US in 2020 that caused around US$2 billion worth of property destruction and at least 25 dead. But of course that was just "peaceful protest".

[moka]

Sometimes a song comes along that can really capture the collective pain of a specific moment.
This is what's happened with the new hit song "Rich Men North of Richmond" by previously unknown musician Oliver Anthony. This song has gone viral.

The song hit home for millions of forgotten men and women all over the US, who understand it because it's about their lives, about a ruling class that has made them dependent on it and then left them to wither in the sun like an old weed, a ruling class that has shuttered the factories they worked in and increased prices to the point where they're all in debt and can no longer even afford decent food to eat that isn't full of chemicals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro
Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond 54,651,141 views Aug 9, 2023 #1 on Trending for music

I’ve been sellin’ my soul, workin’ all day
Overtime hours for bullsh– pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It’s a damn shame what the world’s gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin’ in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don’t think you know, but I know that you do

[Getty]

Sometimes a song comes along that can really capture the collective pain of a specific moment.
This is what's happened with the new hit song "Rich Men North of Richmond" by previously unknown musician Oliver Anthony. This song has gone viral.

The song hit home for millions of forgotten men and women all over the US, who understand it because it's about their lives, about a ruling class that has made them dependent on it and then left them to wither in the sun like an old weed, a ruling class that has shuttered the factories they worked in and increased prices to the point where they're all in debt and can no longer even afford decent food to eat that isn't full of chemicals.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sqSA-SY5Hro
Oliver Anthony - Rich Men North Of Richmond 54,651,141 views Aug 9, 2023 #1 on Trending for music

I’ve been sellin’ my soul, workin’ all day
Overtime hours for bullsh– pay
So I can sit out here and waste my life away
Drag back home and drown my troubles away

It’s a damn shame what the world’s gotten to
For people like me and people like you
Wish I could just wake up and it not be true
But it is, oh, it is

Livin’ in the new world
With an old soul
These rich men north of Richmond
Lord knows they all just wanna have total control
Wanna know what you think, wanna know what you do
And they don’t think you know, but I know that you do

The first line of the song gives away its intent.

To create dissent and disatisfaction at earning an honest living.

Much better to be a sponger, and get your money off taxpayers eh?

The song goes on to confuse employers with politicians.

Instead of thanking your employer for creating a business and a job opportunity for you, if you are unable to create your own in a free society, the songs intent is to brainwash you into thinking negatively towards him or her.

Now who would want you to think like that?

You may well find out their version of freedom is a myth, and they will enslave you in ways you never imagined!

[jonu]

The first line of the song gives away its intent.

To create dissent and disatisfaction at earning an honest living.

Much better to be a sponger, and get your money off taxpayers eh?

The song goes on to confuse employers with politicians.

Instead of thanking your employer for creating a business and a job opportunity for you, if you are unable to create your own in a free society, the songs intent is to brainwash you into thinking negatively towards him or her.

Now who would want you to think like that?

You may well find out their version of freedom is a myth, and they will enslave you in ways you never imagined!

If you have heard the writer speak you wouldn't have said that. He's no sponger. He's just had enough of the corruption in the ruling classes and the increasing controls and curbs on freedoms. Corruption is not a left or right thing in the US, they are as bad as each other and in the pockets of the big corporates, whether it be big-pharma or the industrial military complex or the social media giants. The US has already pumped multiple times more into Ukraine than it did to Afghanistan in twenty years. It also gave IRRC 8 Billion to stabilise the Afghani Reserve Bank after Biden's disastrous exit. That's right...money straight into the hands of the Taliban. Meanwhile poor working class at home wonder why they work hard and pay tax. That's what he's on about.

[Getty]

If you have heard the writer speak you wouldn't have said that. He's no sponger. He's just had enough of the corruption in the ruling classes and the increasing controls and curbs on freedoms. Corruption is not a left or right thing in the US, they are as bad as each other and in the pockets of the big corporates, whether it be big-pharma or the industrial military complex or the social media giants. The US has already pumped multiple times more into Ukraine than it did to Afghanistan in twenty years. It also gave IRRC 8 Billion to stabilise the Afghani Reserve Bank after Biden's disastrous exit. That's right...money straight into the hands of the Taliban. Meanwhile poor working class at home wonder why they work hard and pay tax. That's what he's on about.

I will defer to your insight, as l have no intention of researching this person.

My reaction, rightly or wrongly, was limited to the song, as posted.

[moka]

The first line of the song gives away its intent.

To create dissent and disatisfaction at earning an honest living.

Much better to be a sponger, and get your money off taxpayers eh?

The song goes on to confuse employers with politicians.

Instead of thanking your employer for creating a business and a job opportunity for you, if you are unable to create your own in a free society, the songs intent is to brainwash you into thinking negatively towards him or her.

Now who would want you to think like that?

You may well find out their version of freedom is a myth, and they will enslave you in ways you never imagined!

Over the past 40 years, wages of US employees have not increased significantly. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, the average hourly wage has just about the same purchasing power it did in 1978 2.

Median male earnings have increased only 6.8 percent from $39,523 in 1976 to $42,220 in 2016, which is an average annual increase of 0.17 percent over the period 5.

The highest-paid tier of workers has received most of the wage gains 2.

The figure in 1 shows that in the three decades following World War II, hourly compensation of the vast majority of workers rose 91 percent, roughly in line with productivity. However, since the 1970s, productivity has continued to rise but hourly compensation has not kept pace 1.

https://www.epi.org/publication/char...ge-stagnation/ 1 Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...d-for-decades/ 2. For most U.S. workers, real wages have barely budged in decades

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/...-in-one-chart/ 3. 50 years of US wages, in one chart

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/awidevelop.html 4. Average Wage Index (AWI)

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog...ings_over.html 5. Median Earnings over the Last 40 Years

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf 6. USUAL WEEKLY EARNINGS OF WAGE AND SALARY WORKERS SECOND QUARTER 2023. Median weekly earnings of full-time workers were $1,100 in the second quarter of 2023.

[blackcap]

Over the past 40 years, wages of US employees have not increased significantly. In fact, after adjusting for inflation, the average hourly wage has just about the same purchasing power it did in 1978 2.

Median male earnings have increased only 6.8 percent from $39,523 in 1976 to $42,220 in 2016, which is an average annual increase of 0.17 percent over the period 5.

The highest-paid tier of workers has received most of the wage gains 2.

The figure in 1 shows that in the three decades following World War II, hourly compensation of the vast majority of workers rose 91 percent, roughly in line with productivity. However, since the 1970s, productivity has continued to rise but hourly compensation has not kept pace 1.

https://www.epi.org/publication/char...ge-stagnation/ 1 Wage Stagnation in Nine Charts

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-re...d-for-decades/ 2. For most U.S. workers, real wages have barely budged in decades

https://www.weforum.org/agenda/2019/...-in-one-chart/ 3. 50 years of US wages, in one chart

https://www.ssa.gov/oact/cola/awidevelop.html 4. Average Wage Index (AWI)

https://www.census.gov/newsroom/blog...ings_over.html 5. Median Earnings over the Last 40 Years

https://www.bls.gov/news.release/pdf/wkyeng.pdf 6. USUAL WEEKLY EARNINGS OF WAGE AND SALARY WORKERS SECOND QUARTER 2023. Median weekly earnings of full-time workers were $1,100 in the second quarter of 2023.

For right or wrong, wages have stagnated due to women entering the workforce. Over the last 60 years the supply of labour has almost doubled.... Simple supply/demand dynamics at play.