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    As far as I can see, the prospect of a radical LABGREETEPATI coalition doesn’t bother the swinger voters, they are more concerned with combing through the policies of minor parties in great detail, trying to get excited over a bunch of things that will never be implemented - because the ‘majors’ will never let a minor wag the dog to that extent. Hey, but maybe Raf Manji can get over the threshold and partake in some baubles of office from one of the ‘majors’.

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    Instead of dissing people who are carefully looking at the policies of all parties that could possibly win at least one seat, how about giving those people some credit for doing their due diligence? You are making bucketloads of assumptions about swing voters, without knowing anything about us, and your arrogance is showing.

    I do my due diligence when investing. I do the same when deciding who to vote for. It is what responsible voters do.

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    As far as I can see, the prospect of a radical LABGREETEPATI coalition doesn’t bother the swinger voters, they are more concerned with combing through the policies of minor parties in great detail, trying to get excited over a bunch of things that will never be implemented - because the ‘majors’ will never let a minor wag the dog to that extent. Hey, but maybe Raf Manji can get over the threshold and partake in some baubles of office from one of the ‘majors’.

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    Quote Originally Posted by justakiwi View Post
    Instead of dissing people who are carefully looking at the policies of all parties that could possibly win at least one seat, how about giving those people some credit for doing their due diligence? You are making bucketloads of assumptions about swing voters, without knowing anything about us, and your arrogance is showing.

    I do my due diligence when investing. I do the same when deciding who to vote for. It is what responsible voters do.
    You show little awareness of the political process. If you did due diligence on a penny dreadful with full awareness that they would be unable to implement the promises being made to shareholders, and still invested, then you’d be in line to lose bucketloads. What is ‘responsible’ about that?

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    As I said, your arrogance is showing.

    Doing due diligence means doing your homework before making an important decision. You are assuming that anyone looking at the policies of minor parties, is automatically then going to vote for them. That is 100% not correct. I did my due diligence on at least two minor parties, did not like what I saw, so will not be giving them my vote. Pretty sure I'm not the only one who has done that.

    Don't be such a dick.

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    You show little awareness of the political process. If you did due diligence on a penny dreadful with full awareness that they would be unable to implement the promises being made to shareholders, and still invested, then you’d be in line to lose bucketloads. What is ‘responsible’ about that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    As far as I can see, the prospect of a radical LABGREETEPATI coalition doesn’t bother the swinger voters, they are more concerned with combing through the policies of minor parties in great detail, trying to get excited over a bunch of things that will never be implemented - because the ‘majors’ will never let a minor wag the dog to that extent. Hey, but maybe Raf Manji can get over the threshold and partake in some baubles of office from one of the ‘majors’.
    Well I am a swing voter & I know many other swing voters and your summation is miles off track. Why would they be swing voters if they will only vote in one direction?
    It appears you don't actually understand the concept of what a swing voter is.

    They are policy driven not ideology driven and a centrist I.e they potentially could vote center left or center right.

    But hey I've been called a Communist, Socialist, Labour puppet & Greenie on here & none of those labels are correct either.

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    Good on you ‘policy driven’ guys. Let’s discuss this further after the election after you vote on a ‘policy driven’ basis & we’ll see how the minor parties have fared and how many of their policies are set to be implemented by the new government. Let’s also see how many policies not disclosed to the electorate by the majors get implemented as well: stuff like ‘co-governance’, 3 Waters, and all the mega-mergers we’ve seen.

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    This stubborn fixation on ‘policies’ seems to me to indicate a certain arrogance and stubbornness and refusal to live in reality. There’s no handbook on how to vote and a view that the right way to vote is based on ones enthusiasm for pie-in-the-sky ‘policies’ is one point of view for sure, but certainly cannot be considered to be ‘the correct view’. It’s an outlook I would associate with wet-behind-the-ears younger voters, not with people who have quite a few elections under their belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    This stubborn fixation on ‘policies’ seems to me to indicate a certain arrogance and stubbornness and refusal to live in reality. There’s no handbook on how to vote and a view that the right way to vote is based on ones enthusiasm for pie-in-the-sky ‘policies’ is one point of view for sure, but certainly cannot be considered to be ‘the correct view’. It’s an outlook I would associate with wet-behind-the-ears younger voters, not with people who have quite a few elections under their belts.
    Seriously! You are disparaging people for being discerning on policy. What are you going to come up with next. 🤣

    Just because someone actually has a compass and votes according on policy it doesn't mean they are naive and believe every policy announcement.

    As Labour won't be in Government next none of those policies will be implemented anyway.
    But how about Nationals policy on foreign buyers? When are they going to come clean on that.

    I still haven't made up my mind on who to vote for as there has been very little inspirational policy by any party.

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    Ok, sweet cheeks ... if we are not supposed to base our voting decisions on party policy, how bout you tell us exactly what we should base it on? Wtf else is there? Past performance? Future projections? Or maybe we just pick whichever party leader wears the smartest suits?


    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Good on you ‘policy driven’ guys. Let’s discuss this further after the election after you vote on a ‘policy driven’ basis & we’ll see how the minor parties have fared and how many of their policies are set to be implemented by the new government. Let’s also see how many policies not disclosed to the electorate by the majors get implemented as well: stuff like ‘co-governance’, 3 Waters, and all the mega-mergers we’ve seen.
    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    This stubborn fixation on ‘policies’ seems to me to indicate a certain arrogance and stubbornness and refusal to live in reality. There’s no handbook on how to vote and a view that the right way to vote is based on ones enthusiasm for pie-in-the-sky ‘policies’ is one point of view for sure, but certainly cannot be considered to be ‘the correct view’. It’s an outlook I would associate with wet-behind-the-ears younger voters, not with people who have quite a few elections under their belts.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Seriously! You are disparaging people for being discerning on policy. What are you going to come up with next. ��

    Just because someone actually has a compass and votes according on policy it doesn't mean they are naive and believe every policy announcement.

    As Labour won't be in Government next none of those policies will be implemented anyway.
    But how about Nationals policy on foreign buyers? When are they going to come clean on that.

    I still haven't made up my mind on who to vote for as there has been very little inspirational policy by any party.
    Just use your vote in the most effective way against the party you think will do the most damage.

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