TOP Party one to watch in this election

[jonu]

Quite stupid post. Your capacity of reflection seems to be well below your desire to annoy.

If I use your trickle of thought .... clearly - both National as well as ACT have been the last 6 years just sitting in opposition, i.e. none of them has been the answer. Why did anybody vote for them, where it clearly was just a wasted vote?

For some funny reason some people still thought it fit to vote for them. Have you been one of these clueless creatures?

And lets face it - we don't even know now, whether ACT and National are "the answer" this time. 20% of the votes still outstanding can change a lot ... and hey - if Labour offers Winston the bigger baubles, he might go with them - and again - neither National nor ACT would be the answer - why vote for them, if its anyway just Winston to decide? Waste of time and vote according to Logan, wasn't it?

It appears that you don't understand the purpose of an election. It is not to predict the winner and vote for them, whoever they might be, but it is to vote for the party which is best representing your views. You should have voted for the NZ troll party. Have you?

And talking about timeframes ... it took the Green Party 30 years from inception (in the 1970íes) to get into parliament (I think 1999) ... TOP exists only for 7 years or so, i.e. they are doing pretty well so far, and I am sure they can do this faster than the Green party did.

Ah yes - and Winston didn't gave up last time when he didn't made it - and this time he is (again) allowed to pick the PM ;

That's something to strive for ...

Your knowledge of NZ political history has again been exposed BlackPeter.

[Logen Ninefingers]

‘TOP is not Left or Right’….if that were the case, they’d simply sit outside government, vote in favour of any bills that they like, and have their MP’s put up bills to be drawn out of the hat.

But in order to implement a portion of their policy platform, they would have to go into coalition with either the major Left wing party or the major Right wing party. At that point they would demonstrably be enabling either a Left wing or a Right wing government, and with that the policy platform of the major Left or Right party. And that would be noted and judged accordingly by the public.

TOP may claim to be ‘not Left or Right’, just as a Duck may claim to be a Goose. External commentators can do their own analysis, carefully and objectively study TOP’s policies, and draw their own conclusions about whether they are truly ‘not Left or Right’. People that gormlessly just accept whatever TOP says purely at face value probably need help tying their shoe laces.

Interesting that BP was extremely confident about TOP’s chances in Ilam and of getting over the threshold, claimed that so-called ‘liberals’ would be flocking to TOP in droves, claimed that the so-called ‘far right’ were “worried” about TOP…..yet now labels other more astute posters “stupid”. Remarkable stuff.

[Getty]

So Top lacked enough appeal to get 5% of the vote?
Or win an electorate seat?

So their protagonists say it's the system at fault!

Let Top in, it has to be accommodated!

Really?

Yet some of those parties the protagonists despise made the thresholds and made it to Parliament.

6 to be exact.

Are they cheating?

OK, so we lower the thresholds for next election, but it's Democracy NZ, Freedoms NZ and New Conservatives that sneak in behind the incumbents.

Aw, it's just not fair is it?

[justakiwi]

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‘TOP is not Left or Right’….if that were the case, they’d simply sit outside government, vote in favour of any bills that they like, and have their MP’s put up bills to be drawn out of the hat.

But in order to implement a portion of their policy platform, they would have to go into coalition with either the major Left wing party or the major Right wing party. At that point they would demonstrably be enabling either a Left wing or a Right wing government, and with that the policy platform of the major Left or Right party. And that would be noted and judged accordingly by the public.

TOP may claim to be ‘not Left or Right’, just as a Duck may claim to be a Goose. External commentators can do their own analysis, carefully and objectively study TOP’s policies, and draw their own conclusions about whether they are truly ‘not Left or Right’. People that gormlessly just accept whatever TOP says purely at face value probably need help tying their shoe laces.

Interesting that BP was extremely confident about TOP’s chances in Ilam and of getting over the threshold, claimed that so-called ‘liberals’ would be flocking to TOP in droves, claimed that the so-called ‘far right’ were “worried” about TOP…..yet now labels other more astute posters “stupid”. Remarkable stuff.[/QUOTE]

So Top lacked enough appeal to get 5% of the vote?
Or win an electorate seat?

So their protagonists say it's the system at fault!

Let Top in, it has to be accommodated!

Really?

Yet some of those parties the protagonists despise made the thresholds and made it to Parliament.

6 to be exact.

Are they cheating?

OK, so we lower the thresholds for next election, but it's Democracy NZ, Freedoms NZ and New Conservatives that sneak in behind the incumbents.

Aw, it's just not fair is it?

[Daytr]

Rome wasn't built in a day.
Hopefully the support given to TOP will encourage them to carry on and build their profile over the next three years.

[fungus pudding]

Rome wasn't built in a day.

It's still not finished.

[Aaron]

Interesting that NZ loyal got more than half as many the votes of TOP. A party formed by a woman who lost her mind during covid in their first year.

5% threshold essential to keep out the nutbags. Hopefully NZ voters are just conservative or else I am a nutbag voting for TOP. Maybe I had better reread TOP's policies.

Got to hand it to the "Leighton Baker Party" don't know what their policies were but I had assumed votes would have been in the single or double digits

https://elections.nz/media-and-news/...eral-election/

[nztx]

Interesting that NZ loyal got more than half as many the votes of TOP. A party formed by a woman who lost her mind during covid in their first year.

5% threshold essential to keep out the nutbags. Hopefully NZ voters are just conservative or else I am a nutbag voting for TOP. Maybe I had better reread TOP's policies.

Got to hand it to the "Leighton Baker Party" don't know what their policies were but I had assumed votes would have been in the single or double digits

https://elections.nz/media-and-news/...eral-election/

10% threshold will keep out even more nutbags .. it wouldn't be bad, given the extent of resources and hindrance some of the wastes of space have squandered ..

[nztx]

It's still not finished.

Don't look closely but elsewhere more local .. some still not started

[Panda-NZ-]

Interesting that NZ loyal got more than half as many the votes of TOP. A party formed by a woman who lost her mind during covid in their first year.

They would have beaten TOP if Winston hadn't done his thing and "pivot" towards healthcare conspiracies.