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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    What about the mess Luxon left Air NZ in.

    Part of NZ's borrowing will be based on that taxpayer support.
    What mess? Do you just dream up these statements? Luxon left before the covid pandemic and Foran started pretty much around the that time.

    You really don't have much to offer.

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    The one where he increased debt levels to the max before the pandemic hit.

    Borrowing money at 5%+, to pay a dividend.

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    Nonetheless National will get in despite what happens from here.

    The 20 bucks stapled to the pledge card was a masterstroke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    The one where he increased debt levels to the max before the pandemic hit.

    Borrowing money at 5%+, to pay a dividend.
    ‘Borrowing money to pay a dividend’ is literally your economic plan for New Zealand.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Nonetheless National will get in despite what happens from here.

    The 20 bucks stapled to the pledge card was a masterstroke.
    Never happened. Repeating lies ad nauseam does not make them true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    ‘Borrowing money to pay a dividend’ is literally your economic plan for New Zealand.
    Nah my plan is self-funding as I stated previously.

    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Never happened. Repeating lies ad nauseam does not make them true.
    So National didn't offer voters cash $$ in tax cuts, which saw their polls up as much as 40 from 34 only a week later.
    Last edited by Panda-NZ-; 15-09-2023 at 10:16 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Nah my plan is self-funding as I stated previously.



    So national didn't offer voters cash $$ in tax cuts, which saw their polls up as much as 40 from 34 only a week later.
    It’s not $20, and you know it. You are repeating the talking points of your Labour / CTU masters. Repetition of ‘fake news’ talking points is a common propaganda technique.

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    I'm using the National party tax calculator for my figures (unless they got their modelling wrong there too)

    Median earner gets $25 /week based on a $66k salary.

    https://www.nationaltaxcalculator.co...xoClW0QAvD_BwE

    Superannuitants only get 7 bucks a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    I'm using the National party tax calculator for my figures (unless they got their modelling wrong there too)

    Median earner gets $25 /week based on a $66k salary.

    https://www.nationaltaxcalculator.co...xoClW0QAvD_BwE

    Superannuitants only get 7 bucks a week.
    Well I worked on out on a family with 2 earners on average incomes, with 2 kids, and got ‘Total fortnightly saving under National: $212.27’

    It’s not really aimed at you or millionaire superannuitants who get ‘winter energy payments’, it’s aimed at battling working families in the so-called ‘stretched middle’. You know, people getting hammered by rising mortgage interest rates, rising food prices, rising petrol prices, rising council rates, rising insurance bills, rising childcare costs, rising power prices.

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    Yes I concede that you have to pop out a few kids to get anything worthwhile.

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