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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    Naivety of the highest order.
    It's one thing to ask a question that's not in NZ's international interest, but to persist several times to get a different answer, when McClay has given an adequate diplomatic answer, is unpatriotic on Tame's part.

    Who is he serving?

    Imagine if Tame got the answer he tried so hard to get, then it was broadcast on Chinese and Indian news!

    Very damaging to NZ.
    so Tame should have exerted control over his pursuit of free expression, for the supposed common political and economic good? Sounds a bit commie to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bjauck View Post
    so Tame should have exerted control over his pursuit of free expression, for the supposed common political and economic good? Sounds a bit commie to me.
    You may couch it that way if you wish.

    The reality is that our trading partners don't adhere to puritanical politics or media transparency.

    TV's production teams who compile questions for interviews of our Trade diplomats should give more consideration
    to what's at stake, and interviewers such as Tame should take the hint to move on when answered, rather than try to elicit a damaging response.

    Do what's good for NZ Inc, not personal egos and point scoring.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    You may couch it that way if you wish.

    The reality is that our trading partners don't adhere to puritanical politics or media transparency.

    TV's production teams who compile questions for interviews of our Trade diplomats should give more consideration
    to what's at stake, and interviewers such as Tame should take the hint to move on when answered, rather than try to elicit a damaging response.

    Do what's good for NZ Inc, not personal egos and point scoring.
    Have to disagree with you there.

    I never saw this interview, but if Tame was unfairly biased etc that is one thing.

    However, what other countries may or may not think is not his concern. He is free to ask anything and, in fact, we rely on media to ask the hard/uncomfortable questions to hold those in power to account.

    It is up to the minister to navigate those questions carefully.

    I am very critical of the MSM when I see (what I perceive as) one-sided or biased reporting.

    But I would be even more horrified if I thought journalists were not asking hard questions on the basis that they are scared to upset an overseas leader.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aaron View Post
    Dann said superannuation and CGT are some of the key factors in why New Zealand is “languishing” compared to our transtasman neighbours. “For me, there are two key things Australia has that we don’t. Compulsory superannuation savings and a capital gains tax have made a huge difference across decades of economic growth.
    I think Dann missed the biggest of them all being the resources that have been dug out of the Australian ground for multiple decades. I find it somewhat telling.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    You may couch it that way if you wish.

    The reality is that our trading partners don't adhere to puritanical politics or media transparency.

    TV's production teams who compile questions for interviews of our Trade diplomats should give more consideration
    to what's at stake, and interviewers such as Tame should take the hint to move on when answered, rather than try to elicit a damaging response.

    Do what's good for NZ Inc, not personal egos and point scoring.
    What are “puritanical politics”?

    Our trading partners have all sorts of politics, I certainly would hope that our media would operate according to the standards of a democratic country with media independence and transparency when conducting interviews with government ministers and representatives. I mean to say that was a criticism levelled by some National Party supporters against the previous Labour admin - that its media funding was buying media bias.
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    So, did the All Black's achieve greatness by playing as a squad of 25 individuals, or as a team?

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/politi...LAMZILHVMW5GQ/

    PM Christopher Luxon compares Labour to arsonists in fiery speech


    Prime Minister Christopher Luxon compared the Labour opposition to arsonists in a fire-heavy speech to supporters in Palmerston North this morning.

    Luxon said that Labour’s questions to him each Parliamentary sitting week were “a bit like an arsonist returning to the scene of a fire that they started and then criticising the fire brigade for the means by which it is extinguishing the fire.

    They probably don't know what a hose or ladder look like either after six years of p*ssing in the wind and hoping the wind didn't change direction to come back & soak them

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    The whole world is on fire then except Australia.

    He doesn't apply the same logic to climate change only to numbers on a paper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ferg View Post
    I think Dann missed the biggest of them all being the resources that have been dug out of the Australian ground for multiple decades. I find it somewhat telling.....
    He didn't miss it but rides rough shod over it with this paragraph.

    “Yes, they have access to enormous mineral wealth. But to blame the difference on that alone is a cop-out. New Zealand is also blessed with outsize natural resources relative to its population.
    “But per person, we have lower productivity and lower rates of savings and investment.”


    I am not sure how dairy farming compares to iron ore extraction, it pays higher wages.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Getty View Post
    So, did the All Black's achieve greatness by playing as a squad of 25 individuals, or as a team?
    First, could you answer my previous question. What did you mean by “puritanical politics?”

    I think the analogy of sports team with a country is over-simplified and an incorrect analogy. At a stretch, a sports team could be analogous to a platoon of soldiers facing an objective in a battle. There are also two Nations ahead of the All blacks in the rankings at the moment!
    Last edited by Bjauck; 20-05-2024 at 09:00 AM.

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