Nat/act/nzf 2023

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Suppose many now regretting elevating Luxon to lead Nats and hence become PM

He’s no leader, let alone a politician or statesman

He's a caricature of a conservative - privileged, out of touch and preaching what others should do from his ivory tower.

Of course his own standards and words don't apply to him since he's part of the "ruling class".

[Balance]

Too late for NZ.

Does not matter who is in charge - NZ is already completely stuffed after 6 years of divisive, totally inept and clueless government. The country is a breeding ground for ever more parasites, losers and beneficiaries.

The young, intelligent and skilled with drive and ambition who care about a real future fortunately have Australia to go to and NZ will see hundreds of thousands of them continue to migrate there in the years ahead.

Watch as our best doctors, nurses, police personnel, graduates and hard working professionals leave NZ to the wasteland of gloom and despondency it is rapidly descending into. And rejoice!

And good luck to them - they go with the best wishes from those of us who care about the future for them and their families.

Thousands of such 'workers' are in NZ - allowed in under Labour's liberal 'close-one-eye' immigration policies - and they are allowed to stay on due to humanitarian considerations.

And we know one of the Green MPs, Dorleen Tana, happily partook in the exploitation.

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...s-non-existent

A group of 16 Vietnamese allegedly paid $203,000 after being promised work and new lives, but arrived to find no jobs and were left with a mountain of debt that they say will be impossible for them to pay off.

A spokeswoman for the group, Sky Duong, said the group were recruited through Facebook to work for New Zealand company Do Painters Limited and had been promised a wage of $50 an hour.

She said they each paid $35,000 and an additional $15,000 for those with spouses and children for the job offer and an agent referred to them by the company to support their application for the work visas.

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Heck, even Chris Luxon's daughter has migrated to Australia!

Clever lady!

Chris must be worried about how and who he is going to sell his property portfolio to before property prices really crash? Before he decamps too to Australia.

[Daytr]

Too late for NZ.

Does not matter who is in charge - NZ is already completely stuffed after 6 years of divisive, totally inept and clueless government. The country is a breeding ground for ever more parasites, losers and beneficiaries.

The young, intelligent and skilled with drive and ambition who care about a real future fortunately have Australia to go to and NZ will see hundreds of thousands of them continue to migrate there in the years ahead.

Watch as our best doctors, nurses, police personnel, graduates and hard working professionals leave NZ to the wasteland of gloom and despondency it is rapidly descending into. And rejoice!

And good luck to them - they go with the best wishes from those of us who care about the future for them and their families.

At yet it was Labour who raised the minimum wage aggressively and it's wages that are attracting our talent to Australia.

Many of the issues that you outline have stuffed NZ have been simmering for decades. Shortage of housing, low minimum wage, low incomes for teachers, nurses & police.
And what did National do in it's nine years to alleviate these issues? Nothing.

The pandemic exposed NZs inadequacies and applied pressure to its weak points.
Could Labour have done better, sure but at least they tried something unlike tge previous Government.

And now what's National doing to the police again? Screwing them.
NAFT aren't interested in solving the issue.

Watch out teachers & nurses will be next.

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Kiwis out -> Migrants in.

No pressure to lift wages when there's someone to replace you as Mark mitchell put it to the police officers recently.

UK expats consider NZ a paradise compared to their own country (of course they will prefer Aus, so we get the second best tier).

[Balance]

At yet it was Labour who raised the minimum wage aggressively and it's wages that are attracting our talent to Australia.

Many of the issues that you outline have stuffed NZ have been simmering for decades. Shortage of housing, low minimum wage, low incomes for teachers, nurses & police.
And what did National do in it's nine years to alleviate these issues? Nothing.

The pandemic exposed NZs inadequacies and applied pressure to its weak points.
Could Labour have done better, sure but at least they tried something unlike tge previous Government.*

And now what's National doing to the police again? Screwing them.
NAFT aren't interested in solving the issue.

Watch out teachers & nurses will be next.

You seriously think that those of us with options care any more about fxxked up NZ, after 6 years of fxxked up government who had already screwed up everything?

Screw the doctors, nurses and ECE teachers further so they all leave for Australia faster - I say that's a good thing.

NZ is stuffed and nobody is going to be able to do anything to stop the decline towards second world status.

I will be enjoying myself in my tropical beach side second home (beautiful powdery white golden sand beach kissed by crystal clear ocean waters) - going to be sad but so satisfying watching the losers and parasites in NZ fight over the diminishing economic pie.

PS. Why didn't Labour increase wages to $50 an hour (if that is a valid economic strategy) and every worker in NZ would be rich and better off according to that inflationary socialist/communist doctrine? Labour trying something unlike previous governments - you mean like Kiwibuild and increasing staff at Pacific Peoples by 350%? Wow!!!!!!!

[Bjauck]

You seriously think that those of us with options care any more about fxxked up NZ, after 6 years of fxxked up government who had already screwed up everything? ….[/IMG]

Seriously why do you waste your time commenting on these political threads then? Unless you want to undermine those who don’t think NZ is beyond help after the previous six year period. If you really don’t care about NZ, save your energy for whichever country you do care about.

Unlike a marriage you do not have to remain committed to your country in sickness until death do you part. Ask not what you can do for your country, just go to your tropical beach shangri-la and we will pray the tropical cyclones and rising sea levels don’t wash you back to our country.

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Seriously why do you waste your time commenting on these political threads then? Unless you want to undermine those who don’t think NZ is beyond help after the previous six year period. If you really don’t care about NZ, save your energy for whichever country you do care about.

Unlike a marriage you do not have to remain committed to your country in sickness until death do you part. Ask not what you can do for your country, just go to your tropical beach shangri-la and we will pray the tropical cyclones and rising sea levels don’t wash you back to our country.

Can't stand the truth staring you in the face?

I have the right (having paid my taxes over the decades) & energy to comment as I like - just as you have the right to put me or anyone on Ignore if you cannot handle the truth.

Ask yourself one question, Bjauck, before you comment any further :

How fxxked up can any country be when Immigration ministers formulated and implemented an immigration policy (Accredited Employers Programme -AEP) with instructions for officers to close both eyes and just allow in as many totally unqualified and impoverished employees as 'employers' want?

And when they are here, they can claim economic refugee status and stay at taxpayers' expense?

You seriously think that there is much hope for such a fxxked up country which incidentally added 16,000 more bureaucrats at the additional cost of several billion dollars to oversee the 'smooth' operation of NZ?

https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/...s-non-existent

Duong said the migrants, who spoke no English, came from a small fishing village called Dam Mon in the Vietnamese Khanh Hoa Province.

"They are very simple-minded people, and their daily lives are just about fishing and cooking. Some of them have never even been to school, and their daily wage there is only about $12-$15 a day," Duong said.

"So when they were told about this opportunity to work in NZ, where they can get paid $50 an hour and have proper education for their children, they were prepared to sell everything they own and borrow large sums of money to come."

[Bjauck]

Truth? Why should we bother reading a post from somebody who has stated they don’t care about NZ? It sounds like it is going to be a load of rubbish as after all you don’t care! It is a long post from somebody who does not care about NZ though.

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He's not bothering to defend this govt which is a start on the long path to redemption.

Prefers to go on about his bach and labour (particuarly jacinda).