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    “ At the top of every bubble, everyone is convinced it's not yet a bubble.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    “You are in financial distress, and you can have some taxpayer money. We will bail you out… but only if you use the cash to prioritise Maori content, preferably made by Maori journalists, and written with as much te reo as possible”

    I can’t imagine why the non-Maori majority would see anything wrong with that.
    https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/09...zealand-media/

    To use the word corruption is unchallengeable, when any government pays media outlets to propagandise the public — with the same outlets untruthfully claiming to be independent and trustworthy — while basically being bribed to follow a far-Left agenda. That this should happen in not (quite yet) a totalitarian régime, but in what was once thought of as a democracy, with a free press, is quite staggering.

    Ardern’s government is blatantly taking over the media, an important part of any plan to destroy a democracy. It is more than shameful for those at the top of media management to be accepting these bribes, with the inevitable resulting pressure on all journalists to conform. It is to the great credit of those few who are increasingly reluctant to do so –- but who are now at risk of losing their livelihoods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Proudly displaying their respective IQs
    Haha!

    Well, if I could get half as wealthy as either of them I wouldn’t mind having the same IQ.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Haha!

    Well, if I could get a half as wealthy as either of them I wouldn’t mind having the same IQ.
    Ha ha

    Luxon’s social média team getting desperate ..apparently 7 of them
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    Quote Originally Posted by winner69 View Post
    Ha ha

    Luxon’s social média team getting desperate ..apparently 7 of them
    Come on, just a quiet bromance in Luxon’s luxury apartment since Premier House is confirmed as the sh1ttiest State House in the land.

    I am jelly I never get invited to Chris’ pad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Haha!

    Well, if I could get half as wealthy as either of them I wouldn’t mind having the same IQ.
    Two of them have created more wealth in their time in the private sector than the Labpur government in the last 6 years!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    “You are in financial distress, and you can have some taxpayer money. We will bail you out… but only if you use the cash to prioritise Maori content, preferably made by Maori journalists, and written with as much te reo as possible”

    I can’t imagine why the non-Maori majority would see anything wrong with that.
    Thats a very liberal interpretation.
    The $55m wasn't dictated to be all spent on Maori issues etc. But to participate they had to agree to support coverage of Maori issues and Maori journalism etc.

    You don't speak for the non Maori vote. In fact you probably only speak for mostly the ACT & NZF voters a minority about the same size as the Green vote.

    I know many National voters who supported the Government push to support Maori culture & coverage etc & then you have the Green & Labour vote.

    Labour overstepped or was trying to in regards Maori power, the Labour Maori Caucus push for their interpretation of co-governance etc. And the same people who support the revitalization of Maori culture I mentioned, were anti this as it being anti democratic. And I agree, the secrative agenda that was exposed was definitely pushing for what I would deem an undemocratic power shift. But that's separate to supporting the revitalization of Maori culture or coverage of it in the media.
    Hopefully you find my posts helpful, but in no way should they be construed as advice. Make your own decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Thats a very liberal interpretation.
    The $55m wasn't dictated to be all spent on Maori issues etc. But to participate they had to agree to support coverage of Maori issues and Maori journalism etc.

    You don't speak for the non Maori vote. In fact you probably only speak for mostly the ACT & NZF voters a minority about the same size as the Green vote.

    I know many National voters who supported the Government push to support Maori culture & coverage etc & then you have the Green & Labour vote.

    Labour overstepped or was trying to in regards Maori power, the Labour Maori Caucus push for their interpretation of co-governance etc. And the same people who support the revitalization of Maori culture I mentioned, were anti this as it being anti democratic. And I agree, the secrative agenda that was exposed was definitely pushing for what I would deem an undemocratic power shift. But that's separate to supporting the revitalization of Maori culture or coverage of it in the media.
    You keep getting confused and conflating issues.

    Nobody on here has said they are against efforts to revitalise and support Maori culture.

    There are all sorts of initiatives that successive govts do to try restore mana.

    It generally has broad support from the public.

    We are talking about ramming through a pro-Maori obligation as part of a bribe to media who were (and still are) in a pretty desperate financial position.

    The argument is that there should not be any of these types of conditions to receive the funding. And that these conditions have knock on effects.

    For instance, the reporting on co-governance…there was no rigorous journalism and hard questions of the govt being asked about what it all actually means, how it fits within our overall democracy etc.

    And one conclusion that is drawn is that they never grilled the govt on this because it is a Maori/TOW issue, and they just took a sack of cash on the provision they would proirotise and enhance Maori/TOW coverage.

    You can see the issue, yeah?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    https://www.spectator.com.au/2021/09...zealand-media/

    To use the word corruption is unchallengeable, when any government pays media outlets to propagandise the public — with the same outlets untruthfully claiming to be independent and trustworthy — while basically being bribed to follow a far-Left agenda. That this should happen in not (quite yet) a totalitarian régime, but in what was once thought of as a democracy, with a free press, is quite staggering.

    Ardern’s government is blatantly taking over the media, an important part of any plan to destroy a democracy. It is more than shameful for those at the top of media management to be accepting these bribes, with the inevitable resulting pressure on all journalists to conform. It is to the great credit of those few who are increasingly reluctant to do so –- but who are now at risk of losing their livelihoods.
    I have mentioned this previously but I can not believe I heard it. Arden in her hay day actually publicly stated she was applying "propaganda" to the people she was there to serve. I do not recall the exact context but she actually said it.

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