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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post

    And that is all that matters at the end of the day (not what the polls said leading up).
    National actually ruled out winston , so he listened to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    How quick the woke leftist losers (who kept quiet about the wasted $228m spent on Auckland's Light Rail and $76m on Auckland's bike bridge to nowhere) are to shoot down any idea (utilising NZTA's legion of new hires by Labour in the last 6 years) to investigate options for better transport. So desperate are they (like dobby41) to cover up the total mess made by their hero Clueless Cindy of NZ that they cannot see the tunnel for the earth anymore!

    https://www.thepost.co.nz/nz-news/35...on-tunnel-idea

    Transport expert Greg Pollock, who is the former head of Metlink and Transdev, said the long tunnel seemed like a “great idea” and he was pleased to see the Government looking into it.

    Diverting the traffic around the edge of the city would make it a nicer place to live without congestion. “We get our city back, hats off to the Government,” Pollock said.
    Yep fair enough, accept for the first bit of your post you just made up. If you tone down the wide sweeping insults your posts might actually gain some respect. I know like the scorpion it's in your nature, but perhaps just ask yourself, am I repeating over & over what's constantly whirring around in my head...

    Anyway it was NZTA that recommended the Government look into the tunnel, so they obviously think it's worth considering.

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    Meanwhile, still plenty of squealing, whinging, chest beating and cries of contrived outrage by Labour, their collusive communist mates in the CTU and various woke leftists (especially in the MSM) about the job cuts in government departments and agencies.

    But zero scrutiny about how Labour added 16,000 more civil servants to make everything worse for NZ in the last 6 years!

    Here's an excellent opinion piece on why the 16,000 more civil servants made things worse for NZ and why there needs to be even deeper cuts than what have been made so far.

    Basically, plenty of governments departments and jobs created to duplicate existing government departments and jobs in the name of diversity, equity and inclusion - especially to incorporate the Treaty & minority groups.*

    https://thebfd.co.nz/2024/04/18/the-...et-that-wasnt/

    Diversity, Equity and Inclusion might better be described as Divide, Exclude and Inflame religious and community tensions.


    Lack of funding wasn’t a consideration for the previous Labour Government and the new coalition Government hasn’t yet got its head around the unknown number of bull**** departments established during the Ardern-Hipkins regime, still soaking up government funding. They aren’t going to raise their heads above the parapet and shout “Pick me!” during the government’s current cost cutting process, nor are they going to voluntarily become accountable.

    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    How spending decisions were made in the Ardern/Hipkins/Robertson Labour government :

    * Read the job advert in the article above and weep for NZ. Then, get ready to move to Australia if you are a young university graduate with the world ahead of you. Don't waste time in NZ - it's a lost cause.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    National actually ruled out winston , so he listened to them.
    Aye, you say true. A blunder for sure.

    This is why it is usually silly to rule parties in and out in a MMP environment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    No, that’s not quite right.

    Though Cindy did provide the party with a boost after Cunliffe and Little ran the party into the ground, at the general election Labour still only managed 36.9% party vote.

    National (under Bill English) got 44.4%. A very solid result in MMP.

    But because Winnie was p1ssed off with National due to someone leaking his pension overpayment details, he did not form a coalition with the largest party (even though NZF and their voter based are much more aligned with National).

    Cindy even rang Bill on election night to congratulate him as it seemed obvious that National would form the next govt.

    So Cindy was only put into power because Winnie had the zig with the nats.

    In the first term NZF was somewhat of a handbrake on labour. They certainly stopped their nuttier polices.

    Labour was on track to be a one term govt -
    then Covid hit and people decided kind, caring Cindy was just what we needed more of. So she won an absolute majority. No NZF handbrake. And the rest is history.

    I actually blame Winston for the mess we are in.
    Good post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    National actually ruled out winston , so he listened to them.
    Didn’t Seymour rule Winnie out too in the last election?

    LOL.

    You can rule out whoever you like to talk tough during the campaign, but under MMP that is all just noise when the votes are counted and the realities of doing deals to form a govt come into play.

    At that point the public hope egos are put aside for the greater good of the nation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    Didn’t Seymour rule Winnie out too in the last election?

    LOL.

    You can rule out whoever you like to talk tough during the campaign, but under MMP that is all just noise when the votes are counted and the realities of doing deals to form a govt come into play.

    At that point the public hope egos are put aside for the greater good of the nation.
    But maybe if Luxon had ruled out NZ First, that would have finished them off ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RTM View Post
    But maybe if Luxon had ruled out NZ First, that would have finished them off ?
    No I don’t think so.

    Winnie had a lot of momentum on his comeback tour.

    He was able to spin it how he is the Steady Hand we need in govt because just look at how nutty Labour got when Winnie wasn’t around.

    He is a wily old fox.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post

    You can rule out whoever you like to talk tough during the campaign, but under MMP that is all just noise when the votes are counted and the realities of doing deals to form a govt come into play.
    Ie, break an election promise so the right people can get in.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mistaTea View Post
    No I don’t think so.

    Winnie had a lot of momentum on his comeback tour.

    He was able to spin it how he is the Steady Hand we need in govt because just look at how nutty Labour got when Winnie wasn’t around.

    He is a wily old fox.
    And much as I dislike his politics, I believe he is the right politician (being a Maori) at this time to put the racist divisive Maori elitist politicians in their place. His put down of the Maori Party clowns at every occasion is a master class display of understated bang on insults, leaving them squirming with no face & place to hide. Well, guess they can always hide behind their tattoos.
    Last edited by Balance; 19-04-2024 at 12:24 PM.

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