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    Newshub remaining in business would have been a disaster for democracy. When you have pretty much uniformly woke, Leftist, activists right across the board, determined to reshape society no matter what anyone else may think of it, you have a 4th Estate that is out of its mind & giving the middle finger to its customer base.
    The current business model of the MSM is to treat its customers with utter disdain, and to instead seek funding from taxpayers and a cashed-up real estate industry. Everyone else can get stuffed. When this model predictably fails, the MSM then have gone grubbing around for money from the big tech giants. They will do anything but alter course, so convinced are they of their own importance and righteousness. This business of grubbing for money from the tech companies is a hail-Mary from Willie Jackson, who planted his fanciful bill as a dead rat for National to deal with. The moaning minnie’s from the NZ MSM have it all back to front; big tech giants are not reliant on the NZ news media: the NZ news media is reliant on the big tech companies to spread awareness of their existence. If I were Facebook I would ban all NZ MSM company’s from having a Facebook page to raise their profile, just for having the temerity to pursue this cheeky cash grab. It would be a salutary lesson in the wrong-headedness of their entire approach, but one the foolish NZ MSM would no doubt fail to learn from. In any case, it is all far too late. The MSM is stuffed here. They’ve absolutely cooked their own goose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Newshub remaining in business would have been a disaster for democracy. When you have pretty much uniformly woke, Leftist, activists right across the board, determined to reshape society no matter what anyone else may think of it, you have a 4th Estate that is out of its mind & giving the middle finger to its customer base.
    The current business model of the MSM is to treat its customers with utter disdain, and to instead seek funding from taxpayers and a cashed-up real estate industry. Everyone else can get stuffed. When this model predictably fails, the MSM then have gone grubbing around for money from the big tech giants. They will do anything but alter course, so convinced are they of their own importance and righteousness. This business of grubbing for money from the tech companies is a hail-Mary from Willie Jackson, who planted his fanciful bill as a dead rat for National to deal with. The moaning minnie’s from the NZ MSM have it all back to front; big tech giants are not reliant on the NZ news media: the NZ news media is reliant on the big tech companies to spread awareness of their existence. If I were Facebook I would ban all NZ MSM company’s from having a Facebook page to raise their profile, just for having the temerity to pursue this cheeky cash grab. It would be a salutary lesson in the wrong-headedness of their entire approach, but one the foolish NZ MSM would no doubt fail to learn from. In any case, it is all far too late. The MSM is stuffed here. They’ve absolutely cooked their own goose.
    Great post. MSM in a sorry state indeed and you are dead right - they won’t look in the mirror to figure out where they went so horribly wrong.

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    ‘Goodbye Newshub’ again tonight on One News, with hysterical lobbying for government intervention. At woke journalism school, the wet behind-the-ears next crop of SJW’s are apparently fearful for the future of the industry they are hoping to go into.
    Ordinary Kiwi’s just need to ride out this current MSM tantrum and all the others that are coming over the coming months. Just ignore them & hope they go away, because they will. We will get through this.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    More to my point - have they done anything at all that will help with the 'cost of living crisis'?
    Yes they have actually done quite a bit to reduce pressure on inflation by cancelling quite a few stupid non beneficial Government projects. Much of the last Government's eye watering expenditure has been shown to have achieved absolutely nothing other than create inflation and debt. Such as Jacinda's "reason for being in politics" to reduce the number of children living in poverty. After Jacinda increased welfare expenditure by $16.5 BILLION dollars (which was her solution to everything, spend more) we have ended up with more children living in "material hardship". She was the Minister in charge of that portfolio for 5 of the 6 years. Can you be any more useless ? Using the same statistical measure, National lifted 60,000 children out of material hardship in their last 4 years in office.
    Lets not talk about the tripling of so called "jobseekers" to nearly 190,000.
    The tens of Billions wasted, have been paid for mainly by a huge debt increase and also by letting inflation lift most employees into higher income tax brackets to give Robertson more cash for redistribution, a la Labour.

    If you really think such stupid expenditure, that achieves absolutely nothing, is not inflationary, I'm not sure what World you live in. It will take more than 3 months to rebuild NZ after the last 6 years of destruction. In fact it will take more than 3 years. But at least we have started the work.
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    Sir Bill English would have proven to be a magnificent PM, but was cruelly denied the chance to prove it in 2017 in a disastrous turn of events which put this country on the path to ruin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Yes they have actually done quite a bit to reduce pressure on inflation by cancelling quite a few stupid non beneficial Government projects. Much of the last Government's eye watering expenditure has been shown to have achieved absolutely nothing other than create inflation and debt. Such as Jacinda's "reason for being in politics" to reduce the number of children living in poverty. After Jacinda increased welfare expenditure by $16.5 BILLION dollars (which was her solution to everything, spend more) we have ended up with more children living in "material hardship". She was the Minister in charge of that portfolio for 5 of the 6 years. Can you be any more useless ? Using the same statistical measure, National lifted 60,000 children out of material hardship in their last 4 years in office.
    Lets not talk about the tripling of so called "jobseekers" to nearly 190,000.
    How does that affect food and petrol prices.

    Some food prices are now up 50% on this government's watch, in a country which produces it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Logen Ninefingers View Post
    Sir Bill English would have proven to be a magnificent PM, but was cruelly denied the chance to prove it in 2017 in a disastrous turn of events which put this country on the path to ruin.
    So would Raf Manji, but he was denied too.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    How does that affect food and petrol prices.

    Some food prices are now up 50% on this government's watch, in a country which produces it.
    Inflation affects all prices and $ Billions of useless Government expenditure that achieves nothing creates inflation. Simple really.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    How does that affect food and petrol prices.

    Some food prices are now up 50% on this government's watch, in a country which produces it.


    Probably in reality it was infact under Labour's stewardship .. but don't let small details like that get in the way
    of little spewy, when a few woke up to Robbo's miniscule COL fling outs being gone forever
    Last edited by nztx; 01-03-2024 at 01:47 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    So would Raf Manji, but he was denied too.
    Raf Manji. 😂 The grifter endlessly in search of a new meal ticket; he’s already cut & run from TOP after failing to win Ilam.

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