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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Is the new Government cutting funding to essential services such as St John's & Plunket?
    Whoever puts this forward needs to be sacked before entering parliament.
    Or is this just your dumb idea Balance?
    Labour introduced the requirement for all organisations wanting government funding to embrace and adopt te reo Maori & incorporate Maori culture.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Lets not forget the enormous gaping great chasm that Comrade Robbo dug and then left behind for future Govts
    & generations to wear & deal with filling in, for Labour's incompetent 6 years of feel good antics



    C'mon, if you think our economy is in that dire a state, explain to us how it's ok to give tax cuts which there is no plan on how to fund apart from borrowing.
    You think that's responsible fiscal management?

    If Labour had said we're giving $14 billion in tax cut's & rebates and we're going to find the funding from a bit here and a bit there & somehow we'll cobble it together but we don't actually know yet & cant give you any definite figures yet, you'ld rightly be all over them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    C'mon, if you think our economy is in that dire a state, explain to us how it's ok to give tax cuts which there is no plan on how to fund apart from borrowing.
    You think that's responsible fiscal management?

    If Labour had said we're giving $14 billion in tax cut's & rebates and we're going to find the funding from a bit here and a bit there & somehow we'll cobble it together but we don't actually know yet & cant give you any definite figures yet, you'ld rightly be all over them!
    Cutting back wasteful spending and stopping more parasites and beneficiaries from being bred - plenty to fund reduction in taxes from hard working NZers.

    Woke leftists like BS only appreciate wasteful spending with zero accountability.

    Live and learn from the new government over the next 12 years+.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Balance View Post
    Labour introduced the requirement for all organisations wanting government funding to embrace and adopt te reo Maori & incorporate Maori culture.
    So we all should without ramifications.
    That doesn't mean it needs to go overboard as the Labour Maori Caucus pushed on everyone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Lets not forget the enormous gaping great chasm that Comrade Robbo dug and then left behind for future Govts
    & generations to wear & deal with filling in, for Labour's incompetent 6 years of feel good antics
    That doesn't justify reversing Smoke Free NZ.
    Talk about throwing out the baby with bathwater.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    That doesn't justify reversing Smoke Free NZ.
    Talk about throwing out the baby with bathwater.
    Smokefree NZ is about as “aspirational” as COVID free NZ.
    We’re now down to something like 7-8% of the youth are smoking, a great achievement but leaves the hardcore still doing it. Better to buy them legally and collect the tax than drive it all into the black market ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by iceman View Post
    Smokefree NZ is about as “aspirational” as COVID free NZ.
    We’re now down to something like 7-8% of the youth are smoking, a great achievement but leaves the hardcore still doing it. Better to buy them legally and collect the tax than drive it all into the black market ?

    The Greenleaves faction wont be seen complaining over this, seeing as they condone a bit of recreational
    and really wouldn't want to attract some attention

    What's the bet James & his prize squawking sidekick don't bat an eyelid ..
    Last edited by nztx; 25-11-2023 at 06:09 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    Yeh, this one really puzzles me, why would the overturn this policy, makes no sense, hope that this is not a sign of more to come, dissappointment to say the least !!!!
    So the question that I have to ask is and this is from someone who has never and will never vote Labour, HAVE WE REPLACED THE LABOUR IDOTS WITH A NEW BUNCH, imo a really sad day for N Z, its health system and the people who struggle to do the right thing and stop smoking !!!! IDOTS, IDOTS, IDOTS,

    Show me one benefit from smoking ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by whatsup View Post
    So the question that I have to ask is and this is from someone who has never and will never vote Labour, HAVE WE REPLACED THE LABOUR IDOTS WITH A NEW BUNCH, imo a really sad day for N Z, its health system and the people who struggle to do the right thing and stop smoking !!!! IDOTS, IDOTS, IDOTS,

    Show me one benefit from smoking ?

    Show me one benefit from Vaping

    Show me one benefit from Meth and other illicit stuff


    Sounds like Govt is waking to the fact there are far worse out there, that generate little or no tax revenue
    but produce greater harm. Labour threw a bundle of notes at some of the actors in the various games, hoping it would go away, then ignored it when the game prospered instead

    One benefit - we lose a bunch of expensive self centred tail chasing bureaucratic underperforming shufflers, when there are far greater & more worthy targets that should be chased instead

    Keeping the captive bureaucratic zonks onboard preaching to the stubborn unconverted at a high cost, while ignoring other vices is .. well wasteful & poorly focused administration - at what increasing cost each year ?

    and of course smoking keeps a decreasing band of unfortunates off other equally or more harmful vices

    Hate to say it .. but Smokefree has done it's dash .. and 2025 approaches .. so what's been achieved, what of the bunch still with the said vice then ? No answers from the feel good posturing earlier Politicians who sold & inflicted it .. The country has had a guts full of Ardern style restrictions & red tape. It had to go, as with the largely poorly patronaged cycleways in many parts now put on backburner

    Sorry JK - new broom & some very old legacy grandstanding projects' past useby date garbage warrant a clean up

    Personal choices now over the former Nanny State dictating ?

    The new Govt didn't really want to p!ss a fresh bunch off, so soon after landing in Power .. Peter's had a word or two on this some years back too
    Last edited by nztx; 25-11-2023 at 06:44 PM.

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    Smoke-free was about more than just health.

    Who can remember going to a bar or restaurant prior to Smoke-free and coming home with clothes reeking of a smoke house.

    No wonder Winston's favorite haunt, the Green Parrot is for sale.

    They couldn't face a return to the old days.

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