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    Luxon still trying to have us believe that he is in charge.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    I don't mean to be disrespectful but there's so many things you're not aware of with your suggested solutions I don't know where to start.

    e.g. Apart from it would be a good idea to look at a map of NZ, & remind yourself we are well into the 21st Century, the new ferries we ordered were going to double passenger & vehicle capacity & triple rail capacity while reducing carbon emissions by 40%.
    That puts less pressure on other areas like agriculture which will have to carry that extra load now to meet the countries agreed Emissions targets or we risk being fined billions of dollars.
    This govt has kicked the can down the road.
    There is a simple solution which I would fully endorse, and that is pull out of any Emmisions Targets that we currently are signed up to.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    There is a simple solution which I would fully endorse, and that is pull out of any Emmisions Targets that we currently are signed up to.
    Yep let's just keep polluting the atmosphere without regard for the planet.

    Blackcap virtually anything you would endorse is the opposite of what should and needs to be done. You are a great inverse barometer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by blackcap View Post
    There is a simple solution which I would fully endorse, and that is pull out of any Emmisions Targets that we currently are signed up to.

    If we even could do that, apart from the environmental impact, it would be catastrophic for our trade & export sector.

    NZ along with 194 other countries in fact just about every nation on the planet, signed up to a legally binding International Treaty in 2015 known as the Paris Agreement.
    It's now enshrined in NZ Law.

    If we pulled out, NZ would become a pariah state in the eyes of the International community
    AND foreign consumers & therefore foreign buyers like supermarket chain Tescos, the biggest buyer on NZ products in Britain who warn they "want to get to net zero across its whole supply chain by 2025", - "so around 2025 to 2030 want to make sure that 100% of what we source in terms of fresh produce, meat & dairy is environmentally accredited" would stop buying our produce.

    If we pulled out, our exports would be hit & it would give farmers in the EU & Britain just the excuse they need to demand their govt's cancel our Free Trade Agreements.

    Consumers used to be prepared to pay a premium for Sustainably produced products, but Retail companies like Tescos have noticed a big change to consumers now expecting produce to meet environmentally friendly standards.

    We are facing a major problem here in that due to our 3 year election cycle & intense lobbying by farmers like Groundswell, our biggest emitter agriculture has been given exceptions from the ETS until next year 2025, so we are already well behind on tracking to meet our targets.

    So we are facing either finding a way to take a big chunk out of our emissions fast OR buying carbon credits from overseas, either way is going to be hugely costly & its not on the govt's books.
    Treasury has estimated we will need to buy 100 million tonnes at a cost anywhere between $3.3 billion - $23 billion between now and 2030.

    And National's Simon Watt's has talked about delaying Farmers emissions another 5 years until 2030 with vague assurances we will get to 70-75% of our 2030 target by easing regulations on renewable energy infrastructure like wind & solar.

    It's the problem of unpopular politics & the short election cycles crashing into reality, kick the can down the road, give the voters what they want e.g. tax cuts, we'll deal with it later.
    Both National & Labour are guilty.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    If we even could do that, apart from the environmental impact, it would be catastrophic for our trade & export sector.
    And that sums it up.
    It will also get harder (or more expensive) to get funding if we aren't seen as playing our part.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blue Skies View Post
    If we even could do that, apart from the environmental impact, it would be catastrophic for our trade & export sector.

    NZ along with 194 other countries in fact just about every nation on the planet, signed up to a legally binding International Treaty in 2015 known as the Paris Agreement.
    It's now enshrined in NZ Law.

    If we pulled out, NZ would become a pariah state in the eyes of the International community
    AND foreign consumers & therefore foreign buyers like supermarket chain Tescos, the biggest buyer on NZ products in Britain who warn they "want to get to net zero across its whole supply chain by 2025", - "so around 2025 to 2030 want to make sure that 100% of what we source in terms of fresh produce, meat & dairy is environmentally accredited" would stop buying our produce.

    If we pulled out, our exports would be hit & it would give farmers in the EU & Britain just the excuse they need to demand their govt's cancel our Free Trade Agreements.

    Consumers used to be prepared to pay a premium for Sustainably produced products, but Retail companies like Tescos have noticed a big change to consumers now expecting produce to meet environmentally friendly standards.

    We are facing a major problem here in that due to our 3 year election cycle & intense lobbying by farmers like Groundswell, our biggest emitter agriculture has been given exceptions from the ETS until next year 2025, so we are already well behind on tracking to meet our targets.

    So we are facing either finding a way to take a big chunk out of our emissions fast OR buying carbon credits from overseas, either way is going to be hugely costly & its not on the govt's books.
    Treasury has estimated we will need to buy 100 million tonnes at a cost anywhere between $3.3 billion - $23 billion between now and 2030.

    And National's Simon Watt's has talked about delaying Farmers emissions another 5 years until 2030 with vague assurances we will get to 70-75% of our 2030 target by easing regulations on renewable energy infrastructure like wind & solar.

    It's the problem of unpopular politics & the short election cycles crashing into reality, kick the can down the road, give the voters what they want e.g. tax cuts, we'll deal with it later.
    Both National & Labour are guilty.



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    Did the Paris agreement exempt food production?

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    Quote Originally Posted by jonu View Post
    Did the Paris agreement exempt food production?

    Short answer, no, agriculture was not given an exemption.

    'References to food & farming in the text are minimal, and any are in the non binding parts of the text.'

    'Food security is not referenced in the operative text of the Paris Agreement.'
    In the non binding parts there is references to 'recognising the priority of safeguarding food security & ending hunger & the particular vulnerabilities of food production systems to the adverse impacts of climate change.'


    It's clear without a contribution from agriculture, the targets can't be reached.
    Agriculture is a major contributor to emissions & is also threatened by climate change as a consequence of catastrophic events like flooding & droughts.

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    Deleted. Sorry wrong thread.
    Last edited by Valuegrowth; 17-02-2024 at 08:57 PM.

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    Erica stanford loses control of our borders.. 130k have been let in this year alone.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Panda-NZ- View Post
    Erica stanford loses control of our borders.. 130k have been let in this year alone.
    So all those who had been approved over the previous six months or so should have been turned around?

    You really are incapable of thinking aren't you?

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