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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    This Cannibal Collective Govt are the absolute wasters of money,incredible how they have thrown out our taxes with the three waters etc etc.Sickening and sending us backwards at phenomenal divisive cost.Its all about making the tax cuts the carrot dildo work.Timing couldn't be worse but that's the Cannibal Collective for ya.
    Hey JT, I didn't agree with the Three Waters model, however what's NAFT's alternative? There is a massive issue here to be solved that has a very big price tag and rates isn't going to cut it.
    Apparently 15 new four lane highways is more of a priority than not just clean drinking water, but water shortages, sewerage treatment & stormwater that causes expensive issues such as road washout, slips etc.

    So what is NAFT's plan?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Hey JT, I didn't agree with the Three Waters model, however what's NAFT's alternative? There is a massive issue here to be solved that has a very big price tag and rates isn't going to cut it.
    Apparently 15 new four lane highways is more of a priority than not just clean drinking water, but water shortages, sewerage treatment & stormwater that causes expensive issues such as road washout, slips etc.

    So what is NAFT's plan?
    Who knows,same with the Ferries and we know thousands are going to die repealing the tobacco stuff.
    Taking the water debts away from the councils was the best solution and three waters would have achieved that,maybe with a few tweaks to ally fearful pakehas (lol).

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    How many replacements could have been purchased for all the $500 million squandered on Three Idiots on Water
    under Labour ; the Auckland Light Rail & Walkways, along with other aborted or thrown on the bombfire projects
    - for which there is nothing to show for all of what went out ?
    Wasted?
    Ultimately we will have to pay via rates not that National has wasted the lead and scrapped 3 Waters due to their ideological dislike to it.


    Then there is the residual from the "Rob the Central Bank for Covid humungous borrow up" leftover funds which mysteriously disappeared where or into some obscure hole elsewhere ?

    Who was the Minister in charge with the 757 from the clueless Labour / Greens Huddle ? Not a priority or maybe "they are managing" or too busy asleep under his Beehive pew to be bothered ?
    Not a priority - same as the current lot.
    Shouldn't have been the issue that it was if Luxon had stuck to what he said in Opposition - 'I won't be using the 757 and will fly commercial'.
    Maybe he'll fly over the night before like business people do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daytr View Post
    Hey JT, I didn't agree with the Three Waters model, however what's NAFT's alternative? There is a massive issue here to be solved that has a very big price tag and rates isn't going to cut it.
    Apparently 15 new four lane highways is more of a priority than not just clean drinking water, but water shortages, sewerage treatment & stormwater that causes expensive issues such as road washout, slips etc.

    So what is NAFT's plan?
    When they get one they may tell us.
    A good time for tax cuts? Maybe not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    Wasted?
    Ultimately we will have to pay via rates not that National has wasted the lead and scrapped 3 Waters due to their ideological dislike to it.



    Not a priority - same as the current lot.
    Shouldn't have been the issue that it was if Luxon had stuck to what he said in Opposition - 'I won't be using the 757 and will fly commercial'.
    Maybe he'll fly over the night before like business people do?

    Come on now .. successive Labour Govts have pandied to & aided the vast growth & proliferation
    of Local Body Empires since right back when Clark was Leader.

    The Local Body's responsibilities to Water issues was exactly their responsibility and Labour
    Govt's have just ignored the fact that many Local Bodies were not satisfied their duty at Local Govt
    level to now see what we have now

    How could Labour Govt's just close their eyes to these issues in the past and then just because
    it becomes an issue too large to ignore Labour then decided to make it a national issue and
    in their attempts to do create a larger expensive abortion of things


    The 757 issue should have been dealt with .. Labour were so busy dilly dallying around throwing bucketfuls
    left right & centre. Why was it not dealth with ?

    What did sleepy Little achieve while he was overseeing things ? Probably as close to SFA as
    not being there at all

    No excuses - these sort of things are what we get with clueless misguided Labour Govt's
    squandering left, right & centre, ignoring issues then ultimately wonder why they wind up
    in a larger shambles

    And there are are fair few other areas that resemble the same sort of shambles for an outcome
    from Labour meddling, producing close to nothing and leaving behind an unholy shambles.

    No surprises on the back of these Labour copped a boot up the jacksie and got sent down the road
    after 6 years of this sort of clueless performance - is it ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by dobby41 View Post
    When they get one they may tell us.
    A good time for tax cuts? Maybe not.

    Better than Tax hikes which seem to be the only thing Labour & Parker likely had planned going
    forwards - to fill the large gaping holes excavated through the Left's own incompetent management.

    You think the economy is going to dig its way out of the large hole in a hurry by doing nothing
    or doubling down with large tax increases to temporarily fill a large gap dug by your Labour mates ?
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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Better than Tax hikes which seem to be the only thing Labour & Parker likely had planned going
    forwards - to fill the large gaping holes excavated through the Left's own incompetent management.

    You think the economy is going to dig its way out of the large hole in a hurry by doing nothing
    or doubling down with large tax increases to temporarily fill a large gap dug by your Labour mates ?
    Tax hikes - like the Rego fee?
    On the campaign trail, National seemed to think that they could cut taxes and increase spending but have found that it is a bit of a dream.
    It was pointed out that their numbers didn't add up - they said "trust us, we do numbers" but have now found they are a bit short on funds (and no Labour didn't leave holes as the PERFUE and budgets showed the numbers as they were.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nztx View Post
    Come on now .. successive Labour Govts have pandied to & aided the vast growth & proliferation
    of Local Body Empires since right back when Clark was Leader.

    The Local Body's responsibilities to Water issues was exactly their responsibility and Labour
    Govt's have just ignored the fact that many Local Bodies were not satisfied their duty at Local Govt
    level to now see what we have now

    How could Labour Govt's just close their eyes to these issues in the past and then just because
    it becomes an issue too large to ignore Labour then decided to make it a national issue and
    in their attempts to do create a larger expensive abortion of things


    The 757 issue should have been dealt with .. Labour were so busy dilly dallying around throwing bucketfuls
    left right & centre. Why was it not dealth with ?

    What did sleepy Little achieve while he was overseeing things ? Probably as close to SFA as
    not being there at all

    No excuses - these sort of things are what we get with clueless misguided Labour Govt's
    squandering left, right & centre, ignoring issues then ultimately wonder why they wind up
    in a larger shambles

    And there are are fair few other areas that resemble the same sort of shambles for an outcome
    from Labour meddling, producing close to nothing and leaving behind an unholy shambles.

    No surprises on the back of these Labour copped a boot up the jacksie and got sent down the road
    after 6 years of this sort of clueless performance - is it ?
    Are you a mini me Balance ,sounds like it or do I smell whale blubber?
    Labour have replaced the aging Hercules and Orions far more important.Tge 757's also are ancient ,bought 2nd hand and broke down for Key,Adern etc.
    I'm looking forward with baited breath to The Cannibal Coalitions solution to councils water woes,what a freaking disaster.Coucils will have so much debt replacing piping etc ,bonds will become junk.
    And the increase in taxes ,here we go.Vehicles for one.
    Last edited by Joshuatree; 06-03-2024 at 04:55 PM.

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    https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/profes...DMDGOCHHSHU6M/

    Professor Joanna Kidman says coalition Government might be a ‘death cult’, David Seymour calls for resignation of anti-extremism centre director


    The head of a publicly funded anti-extremism centre says the Government might be a “death cult” that “hates children”, leading to calls from the Act Party for her resignation.

    Gejus .. sounds a bit extreme .. in fact WTF ?

    Did something shake her tree violently ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Joshuatree View Post
    Are you a mini me Balance ,sounds like it or do I smell whale blubber?
    Labour have replaced the aging Hercules and Orions far more important.Tge 757's also are ancient ,bought 2nd hand and broke down for Key,Adern etc.
    I'm looking forward with baited breath to The Cannibal Coalitions solution to councils water woes,what a freaking disaster.Coucils will have so much debt replacing piping etc ,bonds will become junk.
    And the increase in taxes ,here we go.Vehicles for one.

    Haha nice try .. always had to be the odd one who always was going to miss the incompetent & clueless lot that got
    booted and were clearly seen to be sinking into quicksand faster than Robbo's belly button towards the ground on the sausage roll fare .. along with all the large holes and myriad of potholes left behind by them for everyone else to fix

    Not heard about the Labour $500 mil advance cough up on the Water disaster (not one pipe touched) up until Labour & Hipkins got given the roll ?

    Must have been busy elsewhere or conveniently out to it

    Look - North Korea, Russia, perhaps Argentina might have a spot more to your liking

    Panda might be happy to share why they like Argentina so much

    They have plenty of that romping COL spiralling upwards & runaway inflation there, which some from the Left might be more accustomed to
    Last edited by nztx; 06-03-2024 at 05:15 PM.

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